Israel VS Hiz-Bullies Part II (MERGED THREAD)

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Remember before the Iraq war, they talked about terrorists having drones? Now all the things that the "people/world" have drummed to death, saying that WMD's, etc never existed...I am afraid Bush will be proved right, but not in a very pleasant way.

[SAT]

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Israel says warship hit by Hezbollah drone
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060714/...ting_warship_2

Two things come to mind. Not everyone has drones. But Iran has Russian made.

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Syrian Ambassador: Israel's Nuclear Installations Could Be Targeted

He also insisted that Israel's "nuclear centers" could eventually be targeted by Hezbollah.

"Nobody wants to talk about [Hezbollah] attacks on those nuclear centers do they? They could have radiation fallout all over the region."

It is unclear what nuclear facilities the Syrian was referring to.

Israel's main nuclear installation is outside the city of Dimona in the Negev desert. The facility, several hundred miles south of the Lebanese border, is well defended from potential attacks.

The Syrian insisted that his government knows of "seven such nuclear centers all over the country." He refused to provide any additional details.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...952.shtml?s=lh

[Tennken]

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The U.S. military is trying to figure out the best way to evacuate
the 25,000 Americans in Lebanon. If we see them closing or reducing
the staff at the embasy in Damascus, look out. I am a bit suprised
at the silence from Egypt, I would have figured they would be protesting
some.

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CNN was just reporting that 4 Navy Soldiers (Israeli) are missing now?

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An explosives-laden drone seriously hit an Israel Navy warship off the coast of Beirut causing serious damage to its steering capabilites, Israel Defense Forces confirmed on Friday night.

"Now in the middle of the sea, facing Beirut, the Israeli warship that has attacked the infrastructure, people's homes and civilians - look at it burning," Hezbollah's leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah said.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/pages/S...ubContrassID=0

Shortly after 8:30 p.m. on Friday sources reported that an Israeli Navy gunship was hit in its helm, close to the ship’s helipad. A fire that broke out as a result was quickly extinguished... A closer examination found that the strike cause extended damage to the vessel, and foreign news services reported of four missing crewmembers.....The ship was operating some 16 kilometers off the Beirut shore when it was attacked.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...275792,00.html

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http://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy.asp?id=146

Increase in ships away.

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Phalanx Laser defense

Israel is in talks to buy a U.S.-made laser to shoot down Palestinian rockets. Security sources said Tuesday that Defense Minister Amir Peretz, under pressure to stem rocket salvos from the Gaza Strip, has voiced interest in the Skyguard system designed by Northrop Grumman.

The Skyguard is a more mobile and cost-effective version of the Nautilus, a laser missile-killer that was developed by Israel's Defense Ministry and Northrop Grumman since the late 1990s but shelved out of budgetary concerns. While the Skyguard uses a laser to heat incoming rockets, blowing them up in mid-air, another system that has drawn Israeli interest is the Phalanx heavy machine gun.

Developed by Raytheon, the Phalanx automatically locks on to incoming shells and shreds them with 20-millimeter bullets. The system is undergoing field trials with U.S. forces in Iraq and there is no word on when it might be exported.

July 12, 2006

http://www.washingtonjewishweek.com/...541&TM=113.119

Also here:

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L09680941.htm

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I'm surprised their ships don't have the same anti-missile/rocket defense systems ours do. Radar-guided gun turrets of capable tracking and shooting thousands of rounds very rapidly at any incoming projectile.

Am I way off base here?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phalanx_CIWS

The Phalanx CIWS (Close-in weapon system, pronounced see-whizz) is an anti-missile system that was designed and manufactured by the General Dynamics Corporation, Pomona Division. It is now manufactured by the Raytheon Company. It is used by the United States Navy on every class of surface combat ship in its fleet and is used by navies of over twenty allied nations.

Because of its distinctive barrel-shaped radome, Phalanx CIWS units are usually nicknamed R2-D2, after the famous droid from Star Wars.

Israel does no have this - although I read just the other day where they are reconsidering it's use on land to help knock down some of the many missiles - one of the problems is that so many of these terrorist missiles are relatively small in size - the Phalanx system was designed to take out larger - high-speed anti-ship missiles

[Andy]

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I'm surprised their ships don't have the same anti-missile/rocket defense systems ours do. Radar-guided gun turrets of capable tracking and shooting thousands of rounds very rapidly at any incoming projectile.

Am I way off base here?

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Warship hit by Hizbullah off Beirut shore sustains heavy damage

An Israeli warship operating off the shore of Beirut sustained heavy damage after being hit by rockets fired by Hizbullah, the army says. (Hanan Greenberg)

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7...275807,00.html

This, and the continued massive rocket attacks on Israeli cities (killing just today a grandmother and her young grandson - and wounding hundreds more) will only serve to make Israel strike back that much harder....

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OK they need to back way away from the opium water pipe they've been smoking and sober up -

.....if need be the US could (to borrow a phrase) wipe Syria off the map - leaving only a "glow in the dark" glass parking lot....

ROFLOL that was good, thanks for the laugh.

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I would not want to bet my life that Iran is out of reach of Israel. I seem
to remember Isreael buying 3 submarines from Germany a few years ago, I
think they should have some capacity to launch tomahawk missiles.

Likewise Israel has some really good long range missiles that are very accurate and can carry nuclear warheads if need-be - and a fair number of fighter-bomber aircraft with the right range and loads of bunker busters....

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US Syria expert Joshua Landis said that for all the US frustration with Syria, Damascus is feeling more confident than it has for years with the United States bogged down in Iraq and apparently failing to make headway with Iran.

"Syria is feeling strong. It can now go on the offensive. Damascus feels confident that Washington cannot counter-attack at this time. It has few arrows left in its quiver," said the University of Oklahoma professor on his website.

OK they need to back way away from the opium water pipe they've been smoking and sober up -

.....if need be the US could (to borrow a phrase) wipe Syria off the map - leaving only a "glow in the dark" glass parking lot....

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Not only do they have ships, we have ships in the Persian Gulf again and I am pretty sure that Pres. Bush would use them to come to the defense of Israel should Iran start doing more than blabbing.