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    Welcome back Don Brooks! And starting up this post again

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    Well, I am relatively new to this board and didn't see this thread until the new posts were made. Great, great insights....still catching up with the older posts and reading as you add. Plumbob...I PRAY you are right, I am ready to bow at my masters feat and praise His Holy name, and plead for Israel's salvation. After the UN debacle today, I was thinking we might see some leg dragging, but I think this shows that God has a plan, it is in motion and going forward. Praying for the Peace of Jerusalem that will come when the King of Kings returns.

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    Helloooooo DtB.....

    Long time since we were all here together - huh?

    Always the skeptic, I guess I really feel, at this point, that the facts on the ground are moving along quite a bit faster than your scenario would portend.

    For instance, in an article just a few hours old now, I see a couple of things:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/...830141,00.html
    Iran warns the west: ignore us at your peril - Tehran predicts summit failure as UN observers die in Israeli airstrike Wednesday July 26, 2006

    ". . . Fears that the conflict could spread across the region intensified yesterday. King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, a normally placid US ally, warned that "if the option of peace fails as a result of Israeli arrogance, then the only option remaining will be war, and God alone knows what the region would witness in a conflict that would spare no one".

    ". . . But Iran claims that no amount of western effort can bring a breakthrough, with key parties shut out of the negotiating room. A senior Iranian official, speaking by phone from Tehran, said: "Iran and Syria should be involved [in peace negotiations], not because they are sponsors of Hizbullah but because they are regional powers. If Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Egypt are involved, then Iran and Syria should be as well if they are looking to be successful."

    ". . . Last night, Hizbullah's leader Hassan Nasrallah said his group's missiles would start hitting targets deeper into Israel, and warned he would not accept a "humiliating" ceasefire. Another Hizbullah leader hinted that the group had not expected such a ferocious response from Israel, as previous border incidents have usually played out in low-key fashion. . ."
    First, I think Iran is spoiling for a fight. We hear it from Armanaj-what's-his-name nearly every week now. By hook or by crook, he has the perfect excuse now to jump into the frey. I will be very surprised if he does not, within the next 10 days or so.

    Second, I'm beginning to wonder if Olmert is made of sterner stuff than we thought. What was his real motivation for jumping into the ring w/ Hez in the first place? If he was going to play the role of 90-pound weakling, he didn't have to be in this position.

    Third, I don't see any political alternative that is going to throw enough water on this to cool it down.

    Which brings us (me at least ) to the inevitable conclusion that we're already there - we are only a couple of stone-throws from Gog-Magog. Israel will NOT quit quickly. Iran will NOT stay out. Russia will NOT stand by and see Iran and Syria go it alone. The US will NOT be in the mix, because quite frankly, anybody who cares will be gone home.

    Looking forward to seeing you soon, DtB!

    Message to Andy: - I concur w/ wendyj - this thread doesn't need to be closed. Just wait and see, it'll be like the Phoenix - it'll rise again

    Glorify Him - I'm in total agreement w/ you there.

    Peace to All

    PlumBob

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    I don't understand why giving land for peace is always laid at the feet of Pres. Bush (and no I am not Bush right or wrong in my views). As has been stated in another thread, Israel makes the choice. Olmert is weak and a dove. If you want to continue to lay this at the feet of the US, please give me some recent facts--not trying to start an argument, but let's be fair.

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  • wendyj
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    This is like our WEDGE baby and I wouldnt like to see it closed but to see it build and build . Great to hear form you DB---we've missed you and HSB and were starting to worry. Yes the Mountains of Israel are back inteh news with the sudden mention today of givng away the land ---again---Man! after going through all that they have with Gazastan--I just dont see how HOW Olmert and the gang an even contemplate giving up more land for suicide bombers. Strong delusions are being sent and they convince me, we must be on the final stretch and this can't be a tempest in a teapot.

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    Welcome Back, D-t-B!!! We have missed reading your insights.

    I personally know, that when my husband, Lay it to Heart, sees this post this evening, he most likely will respond.

    Also, I have a feeling that Andy may want to close this current thread and start a new one. That might not be a bad idea.

    Anyway, I look forward to all the new ideas that will be put down here in the near future.

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    Hello All:
    It has been a while since we last talked... HBS is away on Vacation so I'll open the discussion and he can pick up the thread once he gets back. While he and I were leading 22 people all over Israel in seven cars connected with Walkie-Talkies, we mentioned to them that we were there in a window of relative peace [great Trip], however, once we got home safely, we would see things really heat up and explode by mid-July - And here we are!

    In my opinion - things will simmer down in about a month - then Ehud Olmert will indicate that now that HAMAS & HEZBULAH has been taken care of - there is now no threat to proceed with the giving up of the West Bank! He will then in the new year finish the 'Wall' and then cut loose the West Bank. He will realize that the Palestinians will not let Orthodox Jews live outside of the 'Wall' [With-out the Wall]. To address this he will turn to George [Gog] to get them off-the-mountains and out of the West Bank... George will cobble together the Force-of-the-Willing [Ezekiel Ch. 38] and comes to do the dirty deed. God smacks Gog on the mountains-of-Israel in 2007[In my opinion]! And then within a year He smacks the Land of Gog [MaGog] with Fire & Brimstone.

    This now is very serious stuff folks...

    Comments? Suggestions? Alternate views?

    Let's get the conversation going again before HBS get back and into it again.

    Blessings:

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  • wendyj
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    This thread is so long but I remember discussing the hook that will bring forces (perhaps unwilliingly) into the Promised land and onto the Mtns of Israel
    this war may be it. As we see on a few threads now. Russia is planning on deploying troops in the MEast---we all know how trust-worthy and altrusitic Russsia is . Also the multi national croup of UN peacekeepers are being talked about being sent to Lebanon. In this volitile situationanything is possible and aliances will probalby break an switch.

    HSB wish you would check in ---with all this going on I am beginning to worry about you Health-wise or other as I figured you would touch base--it is summer and maybe you are at some exotic Canadian cabin on a beautiful lake with no black flies or mosquitos.

    Zion Gene are you out there too?

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    These people who are STILL planning to give away more Israeli land for "peace" are not thinking with their right minds. How far back into a corner do they have to get before they come out swinging?
    Well, we DO know one thing.....regarding WHEN the end will come and Jesus will stand on the Mount of Olives. It will be when ISRAEL has no more land to defend for themselves cuz they gave it all away!! And THAT folks appears to be very shortly !! Just watch their land mass dissolve and you will know how close we are to his Second coming ! Gog/Magog war or not !

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    The TV has been talking about "peacekeepers" now and whether or not Russia and America will have to send troops.

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  • JudyAnn
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    Miss you, too, HSB.......have you been lurking???

    I always enjoyed your comments on the current events and the ME is
    definitely heating up!


    Good to see you too, PlumBob! I always enjoy your insights, too!

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  • PlumBob
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    Originally posted by wendyj
    Bump
    I miss HSB and his comments. He hasn't been around much since his trip to Israel.
    Wendyj, I just looked and it doesn't appear that HSB has been in since the date of his post just above. Yes, I'd like to hear (actually, READ ) his spin on current events, too

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  • wendyj
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    Bump
    I miss HSB and his comments. He hasn't been around much since his trip to Israel. I thought of him as Tom made a comment that Ez 39 was a while off---with the hosts of heaven.

    Yes that may be so but if Syria is drawn into the conflict (overtly) then Russian (as opportunistic ally) will prob come in with Iran and Arab coalition on the Mtns of Israel. I long to see the LORD show himself in a miraculous way that the world would stand agog.

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    info emerging on the 3rd option for settlers...stay behind and get slaughtered by Hamas and associates: (full article at Arutz Sheva)

    The 3rd Option: Jews Can Become Residents of PA State
    13:50 Jun 23, '06 / 27 Sivan 5766
    by Hana Levi Julian


    News Analysis:
    PM Ehud Olmert briefly acknowledged Thursday a new option for residents of Yesha communities on the chopping block: Remain to become new citizens of the Palestinian Authority.


    Olmert raised the possibility during his address to participants at the gathering of Nobel Prize laureates in Petra this week in response to a question by an Israeli in the audience.

    Hebrew University’s Nobel laureate in economics, Professor Yisrael Aumann asked Olmert during the event if he really intended to revisit the Gush Katif fiasco in which 8,000 Jews were forcibly evicted from their homes in Gaza last summer.

    Aumann asked Olmert if he would “expel tens of thousands of people from their homes” in Judea and Samaria as part of the unilateral withdrawal plan in which Israel would set its own permanent boundaries with the PA. He called the plan a “crime against humanity.”

    Olmert has repeated numerous times in the past that he will destroy tens of Jewish communities, evicting some 70,000 Jews if the PA does not negotiate a permanent settlement within the next six months.

    For the first time, however, Olmert may be considering a new option: allowing Jewish residents to determine their own destiny if Israel moves ahead with unilateral withdrawal.

    “Each and every one of the settlers who live in territories that stand to be evacuated will need to decide whether to live in a Jewish state, the state of Israel, or in a Palestinian state,” he responded.

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    Mountains of Israel back in the news again. Seems there are 3 options to handle this "evacuation mess"; see full article at
    http://arutzsheva.com/news.php3?id=104730

    How To Expel Jews: Three Opinions
    13:10 Jun 01, '06 / 5 Sivan 5766
    by Hillel Fendel


    Olmert wants the next expulsion to be a one-shot affair, while Peres says it should take years - and the architect of the previous expulsion says it need not involve army force at all.


    "The next disengagement will not be a military operation," says Brig.-Gen. Eival Giladi, who headed the Prime Minister's Bureau strategy planning team for the Gaza withdrawal. Speaking at a lecture this week at Haifa University, Giladi said it will instead be "the movement of people who will move themselves on their own..."

    "Imagine that in the beginning of 2007," Giladi said, "an 'Evacuation/Compensation Law' is passed for these people, and they start leaving on their own... We will offer them a financial package, and people will have time to make decisions... A supermarket won't be able to operate in a community in which only 5-6 families remain."


    Both Prime Minister Ehud Olmert and Vice Premier Shimon Peres apparently do not agree with Giladi's non-military approach. Haaretz correspondent Aluf Benn reports that the two feel that the residents of Judea and Samaria will have to be expelled by force, but they disagree as to how to go about it. Peres feels it should be done in stages, whereas Olmert is of the opinion that it must be done in one fell swoop.

    The Prime Minister feels, according to Benn, that Israel will receive greater international support and recognition in return for one major move than what can be expected from a series of smaller steps. Olmert similarly attempted to convince Ariel Sharon to remove more communities in the Shomron last year, hoping to avoid a series of internal crises.

    Peres, however, feels that the government will be unable, financially and otherwise, to evacuate 60,000-80,000 settlers in one move. The previous disengagement took a year and cost ten billion shekels for 8,000 people, and Peres feels that these numbers must be multiplied by ten for Judea and Samaria.

    In either event, many politicians feel that Israel does not have enough money to effect the transfer at all. MK Avigdor Lieberman, for instance, who heads the Yisrael Beiteinu party, recently told the Knesset that the unilateral withdrawal plan is "irrelevant" in that no

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