Re: How to Take a Stand
I am certain by now, that most, if not all readers of this forum, are aware; keenly aware, that things are very awry in America in these days. As we continue down the path we're treading, spiritual warfare will grow in intensity. I believe the focus of the intensity will be deception.
2 Corinthians 11:
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Of course, deception has been present since that terrible day in the garden, by the words of the serpent; more subtle than all other creatures.
Genesis 3:
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Subtil ... or subtle, is key.
Subtle: Difficult to detect or grasp by the mind or analyze.
As this battle intensifies, so will the call from the pulpit/articles/youtube/etc. to become more politically active "to thwart the efforts of the enemy, the devil." I am seeing more and more of this which is what prompted this post.
One good example (closing comment of WND article):
Now, I am reasonably certain that I could sit down with these pastors mentioned in the article and agree with them in fellowship on a awful lot of issues.
But I am ... have been for a long time ... and will, with increasing urgency, concerned about something. By "lose" (above quote), what is meant? I believe what is meant by many speaking out today on how the church needs to be politically involved, is that we lose our American way of life. When they speak about pastors (some) being concerned about their tax exempt status or community standing, etc., I am totally in agreement with them. NO pastor or ANY Christian, should have those concerns at the cost of compromising the gospel. I also agree that since we live "in the world (not of it)" that churches should be talking about what is going on the world around them and seek to know the best ways to go out and about sharing the gospel. In talking about the issues "of the world", one must speak of whom and if that seems to amount to endorsements or the converse, then so be it .. if the government wants to pull their tax exempt status, let them. It is my belief anyway that churches should not be incorporated as a corporation is an entity allowed by the state. As far as I know, the only way to be tax exempted is through various forms of tax exempt corporations.
I think it is very real that our freedom is in Christ. It's not just a nice belief for future times. Being in Christ, our freedom has ultimate security. It cannot be touched by humans or any other created thing. We don't need to, as Christians, be about the business of defending our "freedoms", rights, etc. We need to be about the business of our Father in heaven (Luke 2:49); saving the lost by the preaching of the gospel ... out where the lost are.
We are in our Father's house, wherever we are at on the planet by being in the body of Christ. See post #5 here.
Issachar, reiterating a strong belief that any .. if any .. political involvement by Christians, should be only if/as led by the Spirit .. that distinguishes between God's will and what we personally prefer.
I am certain by now, that most, if not all readers of this forum, are aware; keenly aware, that things are very awry in America in these days. As we continue down the path we're treading, spiritual warfare will grow in intensity. I believe the focus of the intensity will be deception.
2 Corinthians 11:
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
Of course, deception has been present since that terrible day in the garden, by the words of the serpent; more subtle than all other creatures.
Genesis 3:
1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
Subtil ... or subtle, is key.
Subtle: Difficult to detect or grasp by the mind or analyze.
As this battle intensifies, so will the call from the pulpit/articles/youtube/etc. to become more politically active "to thwart the efforts of the enemy, the devil." I am seeing more and more of this which is what prompted this post.
One good example (closing comment of WND article):
"If the church doesn't awaken now, if the tea party and everybody involved doesn't understand that God is at the heart of it all, then we lose," he said.
The crowd then erupted in standing ovation with his final words, "It's now or never. It's time for the church to stand."
The crowd then erupted in standing ovation with his final words, "It's now or never. It's time for the church to stand."
But I am ... have been for a long time ... and will, with increasing urgency, concerned about something. By "lose" (above quote), what is meant? I believe what is meant by many speaking out today on how the church needs to be politically involved, is that we lose our American way of life. When they speak about pastors (some) being concerned about their tax exempt status or community standing, etc., I am totally in agreement with them. NO pastor or ANY Christian, should have those concerns at the cost of compromising the gospel. I also agree that since we live "in the world (not of it)" that churches should be talking about what is going on the world around them and seek to know the best ways to go out and about sharing the gospel. In talking about the issues "of the world", one must speak of whom and if that seems to amount to endorsements or the converse, then so be it .. if the government wants to pull their tax exempt status, let them. It is my belief anyway that churches should not be incorporated as a corporation is an entity allowed by the state. As far as I know, the only way to be tax exempted is through various forms of tax exempt corporations.
I think it is very real that our freedom is in Christ. It's not just a nice belief for future times. Being in Christ, our freedom has ultimate security. It cannot be touched by humans or any other created thing. We don't need to, as Christians, be about the business of defending our "freedoms", rights, etc. We need to be about the business of our Father in heaven (Luke 2:49); saving the lost by the preaching of the gospel ... out where the lost are.
We are in our Father's house, wherever we are at on the planet by being in the body of Christ. See post #5 here.
Issachar, reiterating a strong belief that any .. if any .. political involvement by Christians, should be only if/as led by the Spirit .. that distinguishes between God's will and what we personally prefer.
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