The beginning of the rise of Europe???

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Angela Merkel says Germany can no longer rely on Donald Trump's America: 'We Europeans must take our destiny into our own hands'

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7760486.html

Merkel, After Discordant G-7 Meeting, Is Looking Past Trump

Her strong comments were a further indication that Mr. Trump’s trip did not go down well with influential European leaders and that it seems, at least from the Continent’s perspective, to have increased trans-Atlantic strains rather than diminish them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/28/w...ders.html?_r=0

Angela Merkel says Europe can no longer rely on Donald Trump's America

http://www.smh.com.au/world/angela-m...28-gwf3u9.html

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and other shifts???

Norway demands PA return funds for women’s center named after terrorist

http://www.timesofisrael.com/norway-...ter-terrorist/

UN chief pulls support for Palestinian women’s center named after terrorist

'The glorification of terrorism, or the perpetrators of heinous terrorist acts, is unacceptable under any circumstances'

http://www.timesofisrael.com/un-chie...ter-terrorist/

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Angela Merkel says Europe can no longer rely on Donald Trump's America

Put your money where your mouth is Angela !!!

Europes financial and military contribution to NATO is pathetic... Less than %3 of their national budgets...
Whereas our Military is half of our national budget!!!

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How Britain and Europe see it???

Donald Trump fails to endorse NATO’s mutual defence pledge

Once again, the president gives Vladimir Putin what he wants

IT WOULD have been so easy, but Donald Trump could not bring himself to do it. On May 25th, in a 900-word speech made in front of a monument to 9/11 at NATO’s new headquarters in Brussels, the president failed to mention the alliance’s Article 5—the bedrock commitment to regard an attack on one member country as an attack on all.

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democ...5/trump-s-trip

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From their position you don't play "business games" with things like Article 5.

"Yalta"

Pres. Trump it seems is still playing the power "business games". Add to that the foundation he has already laid down re Russia and...

Kremlin: Trump associates’ peace plan for Ukraine ‘absurd’
http://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/fo...ghlight=Crimea

Russia calls for end to Western-dominated world order
http://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/fo...ghlight=Crimea

Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'
http://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/fo...ghlight=Crimea

Tillerson: U.S. ready to seek new common ground with Russia
http://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/fo...ghlight=Crimea

Montenegro finds itself at heart of tensions with Russia as it joins Nato

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ns-nato-member

Israel Alters Intelligence Sharing with US
https://www.voanews.com/a/israel-us-...g/3868845.html

"Yalta"
In business everything comes for a price.....are you sure that is the "world" you want???

Article 5 has only been used once...and other countries answered the call...others don't feel that sure security, without question, re Russia from the US.

"Yalta"

Add to that all the things they hear in the media and their intelligence services.

For them, the US has become that unreliable friend.

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This sounds almost silly, but check out this whole handshake business. It has become very symbolic of how the world is seeing the US right now.

Time to duck???

They wanted the US to take leadership, but at this point, for them, it feels like Pres. Trump is intimidating/bullying friends....leadership or domination????

"Yalta"????

Like I say check out the handshake thing. It really is a reflection of what is actually going down from the perspective of others.
Leadership and friendship or domination....

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re. post #1

From article at link:

While Germany and Europe would strive to maintain relations with the US and Britain, Ms Merkel said, “we need to know we must fight for our own future as Europeans for our destiny.”

Her comments came after Mr Trump said he needed more time to decide if the US would continue backing the Paris climate deal, which has frustrated European diplomats.

So seriously? Her extreme comment is over President Trump "needing more time" concerning that stupid climate change silliness?! Wow. She'd be right at home at Berkley. She's stamping here feet like a spoiled child because she didn't get what she wanted. Berkley (euphemism for universities in general these days.)

Angela Merkel says Germany can no longer rely on Donald Trump's America: 'We Europeans must take our destiny into our own hands'

Well, it's nice to see a European leader stating that they will take responsibility for their own well being. I didn't realize that they "relied" on the U.S. so much. I thought we all had a friendly agreement that we'd help each others sovereign nations in a crisis. Bottom line though, she's blowing smoke. Hello .. NATO Angela. Think. Words have meaning ma'am. Be careful. I'm surprised the media isn't reporting you being a "nationalist" or "isolationist."

There is one thing I believe for certain concerning "climate change." It is merely the FWO (final world order) means of having control of energy. They need that like they already have over the economy of the world and are in process of having control of the food supply in the world. Of course have or are working towards having, control of everything. Ultimately the devil. How short lived it will all be though.

Issachar

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It really isn't about money, they have already acknowledged that as a problem that needs to be worked out. It really is this handshake thing.

The spirit of "Yalta" is breathing down their backs.

Ok I know this may not make sense, but I have to add this...

I really think Pastor JD's comments on Sunday are highly important and very significant.

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German Chancellor Angela Merkel underlined her doubts about the reliability of the United States as an ally on Monday but said she was a "convinced trans-Atlanticist"

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ge...+World+News%29

Like I say you really need to look at the handshaking thing from the outsider point to scratch the surface of what appears to be going down.
Now add all those stories we hear about from Israel. All the stories about what is going down behind the scenes between the admin and Israel. Which is very different from what they thought they getting pre election.......................................... .........

European Council President Donald Tusk said on Tuesday that U.S. President Donald Trump has joined Russia, China and radical Islam among threats to Europe and called on Europeans to stick together to avoid domination by three other continental powers.

Why is Russia so happy with Trump?
The Russian ruling elite is hoping it would be able to negotiate a new world order with Trump.

The "new Yalta" would redistribute spheres of responsibility to recognised great powers. The Kremlin, of course, sees Russia as one of them (alongside with the US, China, and perhaps Europe).

http://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/fo...ghlight=Crimea

Something to think about?????

And no I'm still not saying Trump is the AC

Atlanticism

Prominent Atlanticists
Well-known Atlanticists include former U.S. Presidents Franklin D. Roosevelt and Ronald Reagan, U.K. Prime Ministers Winston Churchill, Margaret Thatcher, Tony Blair, and Gordon Brown,[15] François Mitterrand,[16] Dean Acheson, Zbigniew Brzezinski,[17] and Javier Solana.[18

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atlanticism

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re. post #5

PS

This sounds almost silly, but check out this whole handshake business. It has become very symbolic of how the world is seeing the US right now.

You mentioned this a couple times. Did you have a link in mind? Or did post one and I missed it?

Issachar

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Hi Issachar

This is the most recent one, but if you check you will find this situation has happened over and over.

Macron says his white-knuckle handshake with Trump was 'not innocent'

France's newly elected president, Emmanuel Macron, called his famous white-knuckle handshake with U.S. President Donald Trump ahead of the NATO Summit in Brussels "a moment of truth."
Macron acknowledged to a local French outlet that his intense handshake-off with Trump "wasn't innocent," but instead was symbolic of an effort to show resolve.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/201...cent/22114746/

It's an old business elite thing. Right from a very old business manual. It was used to take control, display dominance in business dealings. Very quickly the other leaders realized Pres. Trump was using it, and it became a thing for months now.

Very bizarre and weird.

But each of the world leaders has faced these old business elite practices, and it has become a thing of not allowing Pres. Trump to do it to them . Not back down, but stand up to him.

Which is why I say it has become almost symbolic.

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Italy PM says agrees that Europe must take fate into own hands

Italian Prime Minister Paolo Gentiloni said on Tuesday that he agreed with German Chancellor Angela Merkel's statement, made after turbulent G7 and NATO meetings last week, that Europe needed to forge its own path forward.
"Italy agrees that Europeans need to take the future into their own hands," Gentiloni said during a joint press conference with Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau in Rome.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-it...-idUSKBN18Q18V

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Emmanuel Macron flexes diplomatic muscles in meeting with Vladimir Putin

Flexing his diplomatic muscles, French President Emmanuel Macron said he had “extremely frank” and “direct” talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday and launched an extraordinary attack on two state-funded Russian media outlets he accused of spreading “lying propaganda” during France’s presidential campaign.

Macron’s full-on blast at the state news agency Sputnik and broadcaster Russia Today came at a news conference with Putin standing at his side. His comments underscored the clear differences between the two men on multiple issues and fulfilled the French president’s campaign promises to pull no punches with Russia when needed.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3487861/em...ladimir-putin/

Putin ally accuses US elite of ‘paralysing’ Trump

https://www.ft.com/content/d2b22a9a-...6-896b95f30f58

Trump Hands Putin a Win at First NATO Meeting

European leaders hoped President Donald Trump would explicitly endorse NATO’s bedrock collective defense clause during his visit to Brussels on Thursday, after he spent the presidential campaign suggesting it was hollow. He didn’t.

read:http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/05/25/...ntic-alliance/

PS
As Russia signed the Paris accord and the American business elite support it......

Example..
Tillerson gives nod to Paris Agreement at Arctic Council meeting
http://www.euractiv.com/section/clim...uncil-meeting/

Big business wants Trump to stick with Paris climate accord
http://money.cnn.com/2017/05/29/news...ange-business/

All this actually has nothing to do with the Paris Accord. Although articles keep mentioning it.

I suspect, but could be wrong, this will soon be obvious.

Repeating myself..

Emmanuel Macron flexes diplomatic muscles in meeting with Vladimir Putin

Flexing his diplomatic muscles, French President Emmanuel Macron said he had “extremely frank” and “direct” talks with Russian President Vladimir Putin on Monday and launched an extraordinary attack on two state-funded Russian media outlets he accused of spreading “lying propaganda” during France’s presidential campaign.

Macron’s full-on blast at the state news agency Sputnik and broadcaster Russia Today came at a news conference with Putin standing at his side. His comments underscored the clear differences between the two men on multiple issues and fulfilled the French president’s campaign promises to pull no punches with Russia when needed.

http://globalnews.ca/news/3487861/em...ladimir-putin/

and Putin goal in all this..

Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'

Why is Russia so happy with Trump?

The Russian ruling elite is hoping it would be able to negotiate a new world order with Trump.

The "new Yalta" would redistribute spheres of responsibility to recognised great powers. The Kremlin, of course, sees Russia as one of them (alongside with the US, China, and perhaps Europe).

http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...122539696.html

Yalta

city and port on the Black Sea on the southern coast of Crimea population 82,000 ◆U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin—the heads of state of the three main Allied forces in World War II—met near Yalta in February 1945 to plan how the governments of Germany and of the countries in eastern Europe would be established after the war.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Yalta

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EU's Tusk calls on Europe to rally against Trump threat

European Council President Donald Tusk said on Tuesday that U.S. President Donald Trump has joined Russia, China and radical Islam among threats to Europe and called on Europeans to stick together to avoid domination by three other continental powers.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...+World+News%29

http://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/fo...ghlight=Crimea

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Pure speculation???

Is this the reason behind the freaking out about Pres. Trump and Russia??? Would Pres. Trump consider this as a way of reaching "peace and security" ????

Under Obama and TTIP(teaming up together), Europe was protected from this scenario being set up.




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and Russia is working very hard to take down the US

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What Angela Merkel ACTUALLY said .. makes more sense too. Oh, the wonder of modern "news."



Issachar

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and the beginning of the rise of Europe.

Re Spicer comments??? I find both sides put their spin on things. Watching the videos, and expressions of the leaders, together with the quotes in the media, paints a very different picture.

From reading the quotes and watching the actually videos from the meetings, they aren't happy with Pres. Trump's decisions no matter how hard Spicer try to put a positive thinking spin on it.