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    Retired Gen. David Petraeus warned lawmakers on Wednesday that the world order created in part by the United States in the 20th century is under “unprecedented threat from multiple directions,” pointing to Russia, China, Islamist extremists and cyber threats.
    Those threats are compounded by an America whose “resolve about its defense has become somewhat ambivalent,” he added.
    “Americans should not take the current international order for granted,” Petraeus said at a House Armed Services Committee hearing. “It did not will itself into existence. We created it. Likewise, it is not naturally self-sustaining. We have sustained it. If we stop doing so, it will fray and, eventually, collapse."
    http://thehill.com/policy/defense/31...edented-threat

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    Petraeus: 'America Must Defend World Order'

    Trump to speak with Putin, Merkel and Abe in day of calls


    Why is Russia so happy with Trump?

    The Russian ruling elite is hoping it would be able to negotiate a new world order with Trump.
    The "new Yalta" would redistribute spheres of responsibility to recognised great powers. The Kremlin, of course, sees Russia as one of them (alongside with the US, China, and perhaps Europe).
    http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opi...122539696.html

    Yalta

    city and port on the Black Sea on the southern coast of Crimea population 82,000 ◆U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt, British Prime Minister Sir Winston Churchill, and Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin—the heads of state of the three main Allied forces in World War II—met near Yalta in February 1945 to plan how the governments of Germany and of the countries in eastern Europe would be established after the war.
    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Yalta

    EU's Tusk calls on Europe to rally against Trump threat

    European Council President Donald Tusk said on Tuesday that U.S. President Donald Trump has joined Russia, China and radical Islam among threats to Europe and called on Europeans to stick together to avoid domination by three other continental powers.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...+World+News%29

    http://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/fo...n-day-of-calls
    Last edited by SAT; 02-01-2017, 09:11 PM.

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    • #3
      Re: Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'

      I hope this is the same video you posted SAT. On my 'puter it's just a black rectangle. I'm posting it here in hopes that it is correct.



      This is serious stuff. These are serious words. These are serious times.

      Issachar
      The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

      Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

      I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

      Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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        Re: Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'

        hmm .. Well, my black rectangle is bigger than your black rectangle!

        I wonder if they have something in the code to block it ??

        I'll have to look into this.


        Meanwhile, the video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyz1ChR1MDY

        Issachar
        The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

        Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

        I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

        Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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        • #5
          Re: Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'

          And now this morning they both work. I apologize for my computer being so rude. I'll discipline it when I get home.

          Issachar
          The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

          Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

          I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

          Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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            Re: Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'

            lol ahhh the inner world of computers.

            “We in France have a defence policy. We fear nothing … We must have a European conception of our future. If not, there will be – in my opinion – no Europe and not necessarily any way for each of the countries to be able to exert an influence in the world.”
            Dalia Grybauskaitė, the Lithuanian president, offered a withering verdict: “I don’t think there is a necessity for a bridge. We communicate with the Americans on Twitter.”
            https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e-malta-summit

            Turning the corner???

            A movement that wanted to pull Europe apart is now the catalyst to cause it to bond even more.

            The "new Yalta" would redistribute spheres of responsibility to recognised great powers. The Kremlin, of course, sees Russia as one of them (alongside with the US, China, and perhaps Europe).
            The foot dragging of a couple of years ago is disappearing. Europe is now moving forward in fear if they don't they will lose their voice among the powers.

            Russia's attempts to weaken and destroy the EU have failed, and is now only causing it to strengthen.
            Last edited by SAT; 02-04-2017, 10:02 AM.

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            • #7
              Re: Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'

              Trump intelligence nominee sees Russia, China, N. Korea as main threats

              President Donald Trump's nominee to be the top US intelligence official listed activity by Russia, China and North Korea as among the main challenges faced by the country.

              "Russia's assertiveness in global affairs is something I look upon with great concern, which we need to address with eyes wide open and a health degree of skepticism," former Senator Dan Coats, Trump's nominee to be director of national intelligence, told his confirmation hearing before the Senate Intelligence Committee.
              http://www.jpost.com/Breaking-News/T...threats-482857

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              • #8
                Trump congratulates Putin on election win, says 'we will probably get together' soon



                "I had a call with President Putin and congratulated him on the victory, his electoral victory," Trump said later Tuesday. He added that the two leaders "will probably get together in the not-too-distant future" to discuss the international arms race.
                https://www.cnbc.com/2018/03/20/trum...-election.html

                We know what Putin wants...see post #2

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                • #9
                  a side note

                  Joel C. Rosenberg: Putin just won a rigged election and Trump needs to tackle the threat he poses

                  Darkness is falling in Russia. Vladimir Putin didn't simply secure re-election on Sunday, winning 77 percent of the vote in a rigged election. He has consolidated all power in his hands and emerged as a modern-day Czar. He has also set his country on a collision course with the West, one that could prove catastrophic.
                  http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/...eat-poses.html

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                  • #10
                    Trump's national security advisers warned him not to congratulate Putin. He did it anyway.

                    President Trump did not follow specific warnings from his national security advisers when he congratulated Russian President Vladimir Putin
                    Tuesday on his re election, including a section in his briefing materials in all-capital letters stating "DO NOT CONGRATULATE,"
                    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...=.98276f50c969
                    Last edited by SAT; 03-20-2018, 07:38 PM.

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                    • #11
                      President Trump congratulating President Putin really is not any different than President Putin congratulating President Trump when President Trump won the U.S. Election. Many world leaders call other world leaders on that.

                      Putin received calls from a number of other foreign leaders, including French President Emmanuel Macron, Chinese President Xi Jinping, Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe and Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi. Many others, including German Chancellor Angela Merkel, sent congratulatory telegrams.
                      source



                      Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday congratulated Donald Trump for his victory in the US presidential elections, saying he hoped to work with him to improve relations, the Kremlin said in a statement.
                      source

                      Probably a lot of protocol involved there; but possibly not only protocol.

                      In the video at the link in post #8 at 0:23, it is stated that *President Putin did not think that an arms race was a good thing.* So they said to each other that they would want to get together and discuss how to avoid that.

                      Interesting observation I noticed after seeing an L.A. Times report:

                      Russian President Vladimir Putin is not offended that President Trump has not called to congratulate him on winning a decisive reelection victory on Sunday. According to Kremlin spokeman Dmitry Peskov, people get busy, especially presidents. So, maybe Trump*s schedule just has not allowed him to squeeze in a call to the Kremlin, yet.

                      *This should not be regarded as an unfriendly step,* Peskov told reporters Tuesday during a press call. *Some may be unable to make a phone call due to a tight schedule, and others, for a different reason. lt will be wrong to exaggerate anything.*
                      source

                      The post #8 link is time stamped *13 hours ago* which would be about 09:30 Pacific Time which puts it about a half hour before the above L.A. Times report. Someone is jumping the gun or someone is behind the gun.

                      I have been trying to find any names or actual evidence of Trump advisors saying for him NOT to congratulate President Putin. I have searched quite a bit and am usually fairly decent at searching, but cannot find that yet. There is a lot of reports (lazy reporting) out there in virtually all leftist *news* outlets that that is the case, but they never name anyone or cite a document. If anyone knows of anything like that, I would appreciate it being posted. But even if his advisers did say that, it is not incumbent on the president to follow that. They are advisers, not dictators. Many presidents have followed the advice of advisers, including President Trump but have also ignored advisers at times. That is a big part of how he was elected president in the first place; he goes against the grain. That is also a big part of why he is so hated by the left leaning elements in media and society.

                      We will see how it all plays out. There is certainly a LOT being played out these days.

                      Issachar
                      The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                      Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                      I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                      Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                      • #12
                        The Rosenberg quote in post #9 is very significant imho. Darkness indeed. I believe that is true also of the U.S., but is somewhat less obvious because of the current wave of what I might call naturalistic optimism.

                        All things naturalistic are temporal. There is a very strong erosive current and it is popping up through the surface more than it used to. I believe a part of the reason for that is that the one world order elitists (they consider themselves *enlightened* as opposed to the masses they seek control of) have moved their agenda along far enough where more exposure is inevitable as well as desired on their part. I think it is perhaps in part desired as it is how they learn as they observe both push-back and compliance levels. It is very obvious that compliance levels by say .. 35ish (somewhat arbitrary but personal experience with a lot of younger folk from many walks, says not too arbitrary) and under people are very high.

                        Issachar
                        The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                        Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                        I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                        Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Issachar View Post
                          We will see how it all plays out. There is certainly a LOT being played out these days.

                          Issachar
                          How true !!!!!

                          At least for me???? The question I ask??? What is he thinking and doing??? He saw and heard the warning, but not only chose to ignore it, but also announced it on TV.
                          All through the campaign he spoke about "peace and security" and "you want to be friends with Russia, right?".
                          His apparent hesitance to condemn Putin. The reason Putin and the oligarchs celebrated when Trump won, with cheers of "Our man won". No, I'm not going down the "collusion" road.
                          That really isn't necessary to have questions. It still leaves questions, especially when you add prophecy.

                          What people thought was the elite's version of "peace and security", and their acceptance of Trump's version should raise questions.

                          The assumption for decades was they were promoting the US would rule and reign. Which would mean each area would have to conform to the US political system. Trump is taking it down a slightly different road, but still one the elite approve. Probably because of his emphasis on military superiority, which would still leave the US in the position of ruling and reigning while still building the new order.

                          May I suggest this slight twist was necessary for prophecy. In fact, it is the formula to fulfill it.

                          It is very possible the Chabad link, their version of the new order and prophecy, is playing a role here. It would allow for Putin, Israel and the elite to be happy.



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                          • #14
                            I think I agree with most of your above post (13), but question:

                            Originally posted by SAT
                            The assumption for decades was they were promoting the US would rule and reign. Which would mean each area would have to conform to the US political system.
                            I believe that all along, the one world order elites have been largely comprised of people from the U.S. and Europe. (I specifically chose the word *from* as opposed to *in* because even though they are physically *in* those locations, their hearts are not *of* those locations. They are loyal to one another (even if somewhat coercive due to that being a part of the kingdom of darkness) and their damnable agenda that seeks to shake it*s fist at the Creator of all that is made (John1:1-3)

                            And, may be meant to conform to a U.S. political system but it would have to be one that is in the making, not the constitutional one that now exists. It is easy to see that the constitution (U.S.) is under severe attack, both covertly and now, as well, overtly.

                            It may be that the political order is already spelled out by those rulers in darkness and it is more like the U.S. will be conformed to it, along with the rest of the world.

                            Imagine what a happy utopia that will be. NOT

                            Issachar, just meandering about my mind and thinking out loud
                            The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                            Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                            I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                            Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                            • #15
                              Meant to say this somewhere too ..

                              There is so MUCH more to the current, raging like never before *gun control* debate in the U.S. Much more than so called *safety*, etc. In fact, to the real power behind that move, it has zero to do with safety. That is a mere ruse. They have succeeded in persuading, possibly the largest number of (mostly younger) people ever, that it is about safety and security. It is not, but a few decades now of dumbing down America via government *education*, a lot of *entertainment* (led by an older generation of lazy-thinking people (see Ezekiel 16:49-50) has brought about the old Roman Empire concept of *bread and circuses.* (Definition of panem et circenses. : bread and circuses : sustenance and entertainment provided by government to appease public discontent.)

                              I believe that the U.S. Constitution and in particular, it*s 2nd Amendment, is a VERY large hindrance to a one world order. A owo cannot have free thinking, independent populations. Only group-think and Newspeak (Orwell;1984) will work.

                              Newspeak is today called, politically correct speech. i.e. Government enforced vocabulary (Canadians should be keenly aware of that)

                              From Wikipedia:

                              [QUOTE]Newspeak is the language of Oceania, a fictional totalitarian state ruled by the Party, who created the language to meet the ideological requirements of English Socialism (Ingsoc).[1] In the world of Nineteen Eighty-Four(1949), Newspeak is a controlled language, of restricted grammar and limited vocabulary, a linguistic design meant to limit the freedom of thought, personal identity, self-expression, free will, that ideologically threatens the regime of Big Brother and the Party, who thus criminalized such concepts as thoughtcrime, contradictions of Ingsoc orthodoxy.[2][3][4]

                              Issachar
                              Last edited by Issachar; 03-21-2018, 10:10 AM.
                              The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                              Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                              I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                              Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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