Petraeus: World order under 'unprecedented threat'

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re. Post #14; first paragraph following quote:

Initially the U.S. and Europe but later, added Saudi Arabia to as much degree as was/is necessary to their *club.*

Of the world; money: the more the merrier

Though Saudi Arabia at the first, eventually more of the Middle East.

Could be a part of my thought I had a while back about the little horn uprooting the three, revived Roman Empire and North American Union, European Union and Mediterranean Union. ??

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That *darkness* I mentioned a few posts back in regards to the Rosenberg quote about darkness, in the U.S. is alive and well in the U.K. also (everywhere actually to more or less degree):

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I think I agree with most of your above post (13), but question:



I believe that all along, the one world order elites have been largely comprised of people from the U.S. and Europe. (I specifically chose the word *from* as opposed to *in* because even though they are physically *in* those locations, their hearts are not *of* those locations. They are loyal to one another (even if somewhat coercive due to that being a part of the kingdom of darkness) and their damnable agenda that seeks to shake it*s fist at the Creator of all that is made (John1:1-3)

And, may be meant to conform to a U.S. political system but it would have to be one that is in the making, not the constitutional one that now exists. It is easy to see that the constitution (U.S.) is under severe attack, both covertly and now, as well, overtly.

It may be that the political order is already spelled out by those rulers in darkness and it is more like the U.S. will be conformed to it, along with the rest of the world.

Imagine what a happy utopia that will be. NOT

Issachar, just meandering about my mind and thinking out loud

For me personally?? I think we have to put aside the battle of left and right. The elite are just groups of people on the left and right,(which is why people like Kissinger can move from one side to the other so easily) who believe they are mentally superior to others. Smarter then your average bear. High IQ's and probably a form of genetically superior in there. They realized man was on a destructive course because of his advancements. As one died, another takes their place until the vision progressed and evolved to what we see today.(Evolved can also include christianity version of god made one generation better then the other)

The constitutions of the "unions" were formed with western ideologies and beliefs. Mostly by the right ideology. Democracy was the only way people can and will be happy. The reason even Russia has elections.

Religion and ethics
Belief in god(note little "g") is allowed, because they function from the ideology it is up to mankind to build utopia and save mankind. An ideology that does agree with a form of christianity, Islam, Judaism etc.

Little "c" christianity is fine even in your constitution. It is when you try to apply your version of Christianity, with it's moral and ethics it becomes a problem. Really your constitution doesn't lay out moral and ethics that are disagreeable to them. But how you interrupt it through the eyes of your version of Christianity does.

The only thing that is a problem is the one we see about guns. But even that will not be a problem when the AC arises. When the AC arrives people will believe his version, but until then non judgemental is doing just fine.

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ps sorry it took so long I'm usually in a place of one doing more then one thing at a time. Most, Mom.

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An "Ashamed" Fox News Commentator Just Quit The "Propaganda Machine"
https://www.buzzfeed.com/tomnamako/r...1jz6B#.dq6z5XV

I agree with him. Fox news has just become a propaganda machine for a group of elites.
But that doesn't mean prophecy has gone of course. In fact they are pushing it forward.

[Issachar]

I agree about *left* and *right* and am considering a *Defining Last Days Terms* thread to make discussion easier. What used to suffice when things were not as advanced as they now are and are advancing at ever increasing rate, no longer works so well. Now it is necessary to be more specific .. imho.

When I do that .. or anyone that wants to; go ahead .. I am not thinking that I know and *this is it.* I am hoping for multiple inputs to hone down to terms that work; e.g. new world order, one world order, left, right, liberal, conservative, etc.

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I agree about *left* and *right* and am considering a *Defining Last Days Terms* thread to make discussion easier. What used to suffice when things were not as advanced as they now are and are advancing at ever increasing rate, no longer works so well. Now it is necessary to be more specific .. imho.

When I do that .. or anyone that wants to; go ahead .. I am not thinking that I know and *this is it.* I am hoping for multiple inputs to hone down to terms that work; e.g. new world order, one world order, left, right, liberal, conservative, etc.

Issachar

Very good idea, but a big and thought filled project to take on. I suspect people mix morals and ethics in the political system, when the two are separate(AC/FP) until the AC finally puts them together with his own version. What we are seeing now is just the push so it won't be such a shock. People will be more receptive to receiving it.

[Issachar]

re. post 22

... and thought filled project to take on.

Probably not as it is merely for the sake of discussion among members here. I don't really care about what definitions are *out there* (in the world). That will be all over the place and is basically useless and even that may be in part, a ploy.

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re. post #20

I agree with him. Fox news has just become a propaganda machine for a group of elites.

Just joking here a bit: Is Trudeau filtering the internet up there like China does for their country? There is quite a bit of *calling out Trump* on foxnews.

I personally would not even let buzzfeed on my screen to protect my mind from the other filth there.

Col. Ralph Peters is generally decent man and to my knowledge, usually astute concerning world events. But it has been plain from even Trump*s campaign days that he was opposed to Trump. When I hear about, for example, just to pick one, the Sean Hannity Show being propaganda, I have yet to find where anyone showed that it is. Of course he has misspoke, made mistakes, etc. (being human(s)) but has always made a big deal of retractions. I like his show, though I rarely hear it and rely on youtube replays, not because he is always correct, but because he tries to be.

If we discount all media, we will have no access to any information about anything outside of what we can personally see and hear, which for me, is not much given the tiny piece of the earth I travel daily.

BTW, buzzfeed too, is propaganda.

Issachar

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Most definitely. If I had to take a guess I would say most media are fighting or slanting things toward their beliefs and/or intellectual decisions. Not so much how the world should be, but more on how to get there.
Either way repenting, praying and waiting on God for His answers isn't up there. Just more, well I think.......

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ps

Even all the different varieties of Christians do it. Example?? The majority of believers in Britain, Sweden or even Israel don't necessarily have the same position on guns that American Christians hold dear to their hearts.

It doesn't bring their belief and love of God into question on either side. I believe it is cultural.

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Probably because they did not grow up with it.

In the U.S. it is not so much gun rights per se as it is, freedom as defined by the constitution.

Issachar

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Trudeau?? lol He is a little left leaning but that really isn't important. What is important is the fact he has bought into the need for man to bring peace and security.

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Probably because they did not grow up with it.

In the U.S. it is not so much gun rights per se as it is, freedom as defined by the constitution.

Issachar

Yep a cultural thing.

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I hope no one minds but ...bump

https://wedg.millenniumweekend.org/f...es-will-attack