Randy has this amazing post on 5 doves which makes a lot of sense... especially because I've been saying this for several years- to a yawn from the audience
http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2016/randyn828.htm
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http://www.fivedoves.com/letters/aug2016/randyn828.htm
nettlesr@suddenlink.net