Hidden in Plain Sight...

[Andy]

Okay, HUGE disclaimer:
This guy is as "fringe" as it gets.
BUT
The old "baby with bathwater" came to mind as I reluctantly watched this.
I have always rejected the upcoming eclipses having anything to do with end times, rapture or whatever, because Israel won't even see this...and we all know Israel is God's prophetic timepiece.
However...
As I watched this, it did occur to me that God DOES give signs to Gentile nations and people.
Thus - I'm passing this along for y'all to check out and (HOPEFULLY?) provide thoughts and feedback.
He does go DEEP on the Constellations and what's going on -- and sort of loses me in some spots due to his obvious depth of understanding of such but...I still found it interesting.

[Doug Fowler]

Interesting to say the least. My biggest question - because he lost me a bit, too - is whether he is saying the child of Rev. 12 is the church? I've never heard a prophecy teacher teach this, but it doesn't mean it can't be true. It also doesn't mean that it can't be just a picture - which is what he might be saing. Because the chid ruling with the rod of iron is clearly Jesus and the woman Israel beingforced to flee.

Although we do rule and reign with Jesus, so I can see where he gets the idea that it could be a picture of the Rapture.

However, I can clearly see, with all the refugees wandering in the last several decades, that the antichrist could rise up from just about anyplace. Think of how God allowed thigns to happen so Mary and Joseph went to Bethlehem for Jesus to be born. The AC cou;d easily claim to have been a refugee but born in Bethlehem, be from the revived Roman Empire, have spent time in Europe, and even gotten to America before eventually, after the Rapture, going back to Europe to become the world leader people call for, ruling from there becasue America suffers some huge calamity or calamities.

[Andy]

Yes, and he does say a couple of other things I disagreed with - I do not believe the USA is Babylon (or Mystery Babylon) of Revelation. I've heard teaching on that and just disagree. I also disagree that the US will produce the AC.
These (to me) are secondary to his primary message about the constellations.

[Doug Fowler]

Yes, although I do think America could be considered a general Babylon , along with the rest of the world as it heads toward the one world government, not Mystery Babyl9n.
Then again. I work with youth, so I've been talking about thriving in Babylon like Daniel did for years.

[Andy]

Agreed. The spirit of Babylon (and Antichrist) is very much thriving in this nation - and beyond.

[Glorify Him]

Interesting but nothing I would personally put a lot of stock in just because his video last year explaining what was going on in the constellations and what would happen because he was dead wrong. Also, people have for generations now been trying to tie Masonry to the founding of America and its eventual destruction. I remember many years ago John Ankerberg did an entire series of shows with a Grand Master who had become a Christian and he spilled all the secrets. Freemasonry isn't very popular anymore. Most men who entered it did it for the "boys club/business networking" part of it. I do not support it in anyway, please don't think that.

What was to me the most interesting was his discussion of the Luciferian Society because there is so very little teaching on the dangers of the Occult and New Age in churches these days. New Age has done a find job of infiltrating the Church in a lot of subtle and not so subtle ways. I highly recommend the book "The Hidden Dangers of the Rainbow" by Constance Cumby first published in the 1980s and still available today. It will open your eyes.

There would have been a time that I would have absolutely never believed the US could be Mystery Babylon, but now I am at least open to the concept. As the global leader, America's abortion policy through Roe v Wade opened the door Globally, for abortion to become acceptable in so many other countries where it had previously been illegal. Nothing to be proud of there. The US has gone insane regarding the entire Trans debate. What is there to debate? You can call yourself what you want but your DNA which defines sex, does NOT change no matter how much you maim your body. It is like the whole thing is a mass delusion. And again, it's the US pushing this globally. I truly believe God will hold this nation accountable for the all of this.

[Doug Fowler]

Yes, that's why I made the connection right away, a few years back, with the whole idea of transhumanism. Becasue it doesn't really make any sense unless it's a way for the idea of being trans-anything to help slowly convince people that it's possible to be trans-human by getting some chip implanted. In reality, it doesn't make you trans-human, it just makes you a human with a microchip, or neurolink, or whatever.

[Andy]

I just re-read Rev 17 and still see Mystery Babylon as a one-world religion (likely headed up by a Pope/False Prophet) that initially "rides the best" (Antichrist/godless world order) but then the beast turns and destroys her (demands the world worship him instead). I've really tried to see the US in this chapter and just can't get there - but that's me.

[Issachar]

I think it is possible that the mystery Babylon is the whole world system. It would have a "headquarters" of sorts, I'm sure and that does not have to be the U.S. But I do believe whatever mystery Babylon is, it will certainly impact in a mighty way, the entire world.

GH, thanks for mentioning the hidden rainbow book again. I highly recommend it. I DO NOT like the subtitle, but it is true. Jesus did say, "as it was in the days of Noah and Lot" (Luke 17:20-37). How was it in those days? Not nice. (Genesis 6:11, 19:1-10)

Also, that subtitle fits perfectly in this day of lawlessness.

Issachar

[Andy]

If it's a world system (I assume you mean political) and not the world religious system, what's the meaning of the beast turning on the harlot/Mystery Babylon?

The entire 17th chapter is fascinating and not easy to understand (for me).

[Doug Fowler]

It is confusing - I've always heard that the 2 Babylons in chapters 17 and 18 are distinct - one chapter describes the religious system, one the economic. However, there certainly seems to be some overlap as if describing the same centralhub.