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    Israel facing ‘darkest hour’ of internal division in 75 years — I ask Evangelicals to pray for Israel like never before




  • #2
    I don't necessarily agree with Joel on all he stated. Apparently ignoring his previous statements about the dangers. Except to say he doesn't agree with all they are trying to do.

    Just today some of the extremist in the government, once again, tried to weaken the authority of the AG. For right or wrong is neither here nor there, what does get your attention is the fact the move was an another attempt to give even more power to themselves. Likud stopped it from passing.

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    • #3
      Praying for sure. Very sad seeing what is going on over there. I keep thinking that they should do better, but I guess if not in Christ, then behavior is still according to anyone not in Christ. But still, I think it's different for Israel, but I can say, "because."

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      Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

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      Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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      • #4
        Psalms 122:
        6
        Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.
        7 Peace be within thy walls, and prosperity within thy palaces.
        The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

        Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

        I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

        Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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        • #5
          Good video SAT. Thanks.

          Issachar
          The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

          Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

          I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

          Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by SAT View Post
            I don't necessarily agree with Joel on all he stated. Apparently ignoring his previous statements about the dangers. Except to say he doesn't agree with all they are trying to do.

            Just today some of the extremist in the government, once again, tried to weaken the authority of the AG. For right or wrong is neither here nor there, what does get your attention is the fact the move was an another attempt to give even more power to themselves. Likud stopped it from passing.
            This is the article you posted and I saw it here [QUOTE=SAT;n455626]
            MKs pass controversial ‘admissions committees’ law, allowing towns of up to 700 homes to cherry-pick residents | The Times of Israel

            SAT I totally agree with you. Joel is being an apologist for Netanyahu and I really dislike it. The problem most Israelis have with this is there is NO definition of "reasonable" or "unreasonable." Zero. None. And without a Constitution, both of those are open to interpretation. I saw today, and it may be the piece of legislation you refer to, that there was an attempt by the far Right ideologues to give permission to home owners to eject any "neighbor" they did not like. This is absolutely tyranny and directed at non-right wing Jews.

            I have prayed for Israel daily for 30+ years. Now I pray for their peace and that God will lift the blinders from their eyes to see that Jesus is indeed Messiah.

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            • #7
              Likud MKs submit bill to split up, limit powers of AG; party swiftly disavows it | The Times of Israel

              It is so sad to see this. My comfort in all this is the fact God knew/knows.

              I can't help but wonder why it is only the media that seems to mentions the word "constitution". It must have something to do with Judaism?????
              Last edited by SAT; 07-26-2023, 08:34 PM.

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              • #8
                Really good question - they certainly created their current governmental system, so why didn't they forge a Constitution on which to stand?
                Certainly, that's the difference between a Republic and a simple democracy.
                There's much about modern Israeli history about which I know very little.

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                • #9
                  Canada isn't a "Republic", but we have one. I can't think of country that isn't a theocracy that doesn't have one.

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                  • #10
                    P.S
                    The quote "Unions" have one.

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                    • #11
                      Interesting - so Canada is a true democracy where a simple majority rules, but ultimately the Constitution has final authority over matters?
                      Clearly, I do not understand how that works but, "Political Science" was never an interest growing up, so I didn't learn about how the governments of the nations are set up. Plz forgive my ignorance.

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                      • #12
                        Fascinating. I had no idea that Israel did not have a constitution.

                        That, to, may be part of the problem. When there is a constitution come. It is easy for all sides to have something. They can fall back on and say that they know things will progress smoothly - Even if there is disagreement, they know that there is a constitution set up to ensure that their voices get heard and where they can be encouraged to work together to solve problems.

                        While constitutions are man-made, Good ones can at least allow for a setup of ideals such as reasonableness on which all can agree.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Andy View Post
                          Interesting - so Canada is a true democracy where a simple majority rules, but ultimately the Constitution has final authority over matters?
                          Clearly, I do not understand how that works but, "Political Science" was never an interest growing up, so I didn't learn about how the governments of the nations are set up. Plz forgive my ignorance.
                          lol Neither am I. This morning I looked up "Republic"
                          Republic Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
                          I had to chuckle at this statement
                          So if someone asks you if the United States is a democracy or a republic, you may safely answer the question with either “both” or “it depends.”
                          I do know the Canadian system is similar to Israel. If a political party doesn't have a majority it can team up with another party. It also means that if the person in power (Prime Minister) can be removed and an election called in a no confidence vote. A vote in government of all the members of parliament.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Doug Fowler View Post
                            Fascinating. I had no idea that Israel did not have a constitution.

                            That, to, may be part of the problem. When there is a constitution come. It is easy for all sides to have something. They can fall back on and say that they know things will progress smoothly - Even if there is disagreement, they know that there is a constitution set up to ensure that their voices get heard and where they can be encouraged to work together to solve problems.

                            While constitutions are man-made, Good ones can at least allow for a setup of ideals such as reasonableness on which all can agree.
                            And the Supreme Court uses the constitution in their deliberations. I would guess that is why Israel doesn't have one. The debate between a "constitution" and Jewish Law (like a theocracy) would be my guess

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SAT View Post

                              And the Supreme Court uses the constitution in their deliberations. I would guess that is why Israel doesn't have one. The debate between a "constitution" and Jewish Law (like a theocracy) would be my guess
                              I thought I should add this..
                              Theocracy Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster
                              government of a state by immediate divine guidance or by officials who are regarded as divinely guided

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