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Modern Israel, the Pharisees, the common people, and Jesus

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  • Modern Israel, the Pharisees, the common people, and Jesus

    It was suggested that we post more stuff, so I decided that this would be a good way for those who come and visit to see some of the discussion we have had before about the Pharisees, along with how this connects with modern israel, leading up to how the Sanhedrin could be more of a force or any of a number of things could happen.

    Jesus said famously that the day of the Lord would be like in the days of Noah. But, we also see numerous times in the Bible that God uses familiar patterns, and in fact sometimes something happens once and then the more complete fulfillment of that prophecy happens later.

    so much seems to be happening in modern Israel that leads up to becoming of the messiah, but which will lead first to the antichrist. A lot of people point to the slow production of all of the Third Temple items, or obviously to the retaking of Jerusalem or Israel becoming a nation once more in 1948.

    but one familiar pattern I keep seeing is how israel, after Decades of being beaten down by the Palestinians, is finding itself more and more Guided by Pharisees, just as they were in the first century AD. I don't know this for a fact but I'm sure that it's possible that the Pharisees of the day even told people that they were having all those rules in part to help protect them from the romans. After all, they said they had no king but Caesar.

    so, This Thread is a discussion of how things are lining up to be just like in Jesus day, how these modern-day Pharisees are ruling Israel and how the people maybe seduced into following them, and eventually into following the antichrist, because of the cries of peace and safety.

    one thing that is of Interest also is the Sanhedrin. Honestly, until they formed once more some years back, that is one thing I never thought I would hear. And perhaps that is what first started me thinking about how Israel and the 21st century, as the day approaches when the Lord calls us home and the time of Jacob's troubles begins, resembles Israel of the first century more and more.

    of course, they ultimately rejected jesus, but they did accept him at first because they thought he would free them from Roman rule. They will ultimately accept their false Messiah, and I always thought that they would do this because he would free them from Terror and the constant attacks by Islamic groups that do not want Israel to exist. That may still be true. But, as there is more and more of a divide in israel, I wonder if the Antichrist will be welcomed and hailed as a hero to Israel because he will offer a plan that will clear up the entire mess going on over there right now. Maybe no judicial reform in exchange for a third temple?

    obviously, not everything will mirror the events of the Gospels. However, here is a good place to discuss just how much the rulers right now in Israel are like the pharisees. And, what it was like back then in the first century.
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    Former U.S. Ambassador to Israel David Friedman on Sunday condemned the timing of the Israeli Knesset vote on the contentious Reasonableness Standard Bill on Sunday, noting that the vote is taking place on the eve of Tisha B’Av, the day to commemorate the destruction of the Second Jewish Temple in Jerusalem some 2,000 years ago.
    Former US Ambassador Friedman criticizes timing of Israel's vote on contentious bill | All Israel News

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      I knew it was around now but didn't realize the 9th of Av was so close.

      The fact so many are relying on whether the bill passes or not shows their focus on worldly matters, just as the people in Jesus' day.

      Also, the very idea of reasonableness, obviously reasonableness in the eyes of man and not of God.
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        No generation or human since Adam had more of an opportunity to see and accept the Truth than the Pharisees yet they CHOSE rejection. Disbelief is a choice.
        Now this generation of Jews back in their land love touting their "amazing military" for the literal miraculous victories in all of their wars since 1948. Yes, their military (esp their pilots) were phenomenal but alas, God alone gives them the ability to take the enemy on and obliterate them against impossible odds.

        Rejection of the Truth is a thread all throughout man's history but the Jews are the most responsible - they were given the very Oracles of God and entered into an eternal covenant with Him.

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          Originally posted by Doug Fowler View Post
          I knew it was around now but didn't realize the 9th of Av was so close.

          The fact so many are relying on whether the bill passes or not shows their focus on worldly matters, just as the people in Jesus' day.

          Also, the very idea of reasonableness, obviously reasonableness in the eyes of man and not of God.


          The bold and italics are my emphasis on Doug's post. "Reasonableness is not a set thing. It is a changeable thing. Therein lies the rub on all of this. I ask "reasonable" to whom? Example: the current travesty of sexual identity in children and transgenderism. To me, as a Christian, I see it as demonic. To the deluded, even among Christians (kind of an oxymoron dontcha think?) it is a reasonable thing.

          As to the Pharisees in both Jesus' time and currently, I see no difference. These are men and women (yes, women can be rabbis now in some forms of Judaism), who are well educated in the Torah and Mishna, which was then and is now, an Idol. It is a position of instant respect and power over people who "believe", not unlike the terms "Reverend and Pastor" in Christianity. So many seek the power but not the God they profess to believe in. God has always shown his desire for Relationship with his creatures, from the very beginning. And that is why what they do is hollow and does not change lives or lift people us as a relationship with Jesus Christ will always do.



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