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  • #16
    From the article you posted cnav

    Turkey’s vice president says his country won’t bow to threats in an apparent response to Trump’s warning to Ankara about the scope of its planned military incursion into Syria.
    Fuat Oktay said in a speech on Tuesday that Turkey is intent on combatting Syrian Kurdish fighters across its border in Syria and on creating a zone that would allow Turkey to resettle Syrian refugees there.
    Oktay said: “Where Turkey’s security is concerned, we determine our own path but we set our own limits.”


    • #17
      As cited in Post #9 above, the US decision to ". . . abandon the Kurds. . ." ( ) says to the Israelis that they are all alone (at least they say that they fee alone.)

      Rolling faster and faster down the slippery slope.
      ". . . for the time has come for you to awaken from your slumber. . ." Romans 13:11


      • #18
        So odd - even after the software upgrade here I still don't see post numbers.
        And it doesn't matter what computer I'm on so it apparently follows my profile for some weird reason.


        • #19
          Trump’s new actions, inactions on Kurds, Syria, Iran have Israel deeply worried

          Trump knew exactly what Erdogan was/is going to do to the Kurds !

          Trump defends Syria move: For us, ‘the stupid, endless Mideast wars are ending!’


          • #20
            Arab League to hold emergency meeting over Turkish offensive into Syria

            The Arab League will hold an emergency meeting on Saturday, it said in a statement, following a call by Egypt for the body to meet over Turkey's offensive into Syria.

            Egypt's foreign ministry, in a statement on Wednesday, "condemned in the strongest terms the Turkish aggression on Syrian territory," saying the offensive "represents a blatant and unacceptable attack on the sovereignty of a brotherly Arab state."

            Bahrain condemns Turkish offensive in northeast Syria - State news agency BNA

            UAE condemns the Turkish offensive in northeast Syria - State news agency WAM

            Saudi Arabia condemns the Turkish offensive in northeast Syria

            MK Zvi Hauser: Israel cannot close its eyes to the suffering of the Kurds

            Iran's parliament speaker cancels Turkey visit after military launch

            Iran's Rouhani urges Turkey to avoid military action in Syria


            Iran holds unannounced military drill near Turkey border: ISNA

            Iran war threat: Tehran begins war games after Turkey airstrikes ‘We’re ready’

            Last edited by SAT; 10-09-2019, 08:21 PM.


            • #21
              'A bloody conflict': Trump's actions in Syria will have long-term consequences

              "It is certainly going to be a bloody conflict," Kurdish political analyst Mutlu Civiroglu said from Washington, D.C., noting that while the SDF is led by Syrian Kurds, it includes a wide range of ethnic groups. "The Arabs, the Syrian Christians, Yazidis, they are in no way going to accept a Turkish military presence in their region."

              Edit to add

              remember it was just a couple of years ago the Kurds saved the Christians and Yazidis from ISIS. Protected them.

              a side note..

              Trump’s Syria decision tests the bounds of Republican support as he demands solidarity on impeachment

              and so now after everything Trump has publically stated the WH is trying to claim...

              Pompeo says U.S. did not give green light to Turkey's Syria incursion

              Yep a massive boost for the owo & the owr
              Last edited by SAT; 10-09-2019, 09:39 PM.


              • #22
                Turkey had ‘legitimate security concern’ in attacking Syrian Kurds, Pompeo says

                and Putin apparently agrees with Trump's decision

                Turkey's Erdogan, Russia's Putin discuss Syria offensive: Turkish presidency

                Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov, following the drawdown of US troops and the launch of the Turkish operation, reiterated Russia’s recognition of “Turkey’s right to ensure its security,” but conditioned it with several important don’ts.
                Third, take advantage of mistakes made by the other party whose position is important to Ankara — the United States — and use the contrast to your advantage. The statement by Kremlin’s spokesman reveals the ABCs of Russia's approach to Turkey.

                at the exact same time...
                Russia, Turkey to increase trade in local currencies

                Turkey and Russia signed an agreement to increase the use of local currencies -- Turkish Lira and Russian Ruble -- in bilateral trade, the Russian Finance Ministry announced on Oct. 8.
                Turkish Finance and Treasury Minister Berat Albayrak and his Russian counterpart Anton Siluanov signed the agreement on Oct. 4.
                Within the scope of the agreement, commercial institutions' demand for two currencies will be raised and a proper finance structure will be established.
                The agreement will also enhance the use of Russia's National Payment Card (MIR) and Financial messaging system of the Bank of Russia (SPFS), which is an alternative of the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) -- in Turkey.
                Parties will also develop debt securities for Russian and Turkish exporters.


                Trump handing northern Syria to Turkey is a ‘gift to Russia, Iran, and ISIS,’ former US envoy says
                Last edited by SAT; 10-10-2019, 04:31 AM.


                • #23
                  reminder from just a couple of days ago

                  Egypt, Cyprus, Greece slam Turkey over offshore drilling in Eastern Mediterranean
                  At a press conference following a tripartite summit in Cairo, Cypriot President Nicos Anastasiades criticized Ankara's "unilateral" and "unacceptable" acts and "blatant infringement" on his country's sovereign rights and international laws by drilling in areas claimed by Nicosia.

                  Turkey Won't 'Back Down' In Pursuit Of Natural Gas In Eastern Mediterranean
                  Last edited by SAT; 10-10-2019, 10:14 AM.


                  • #24
                    IDF officers to Netanyahu: Prevent atrocities against Kurds in Syria

                    Netanyahu condemns Turkish invasion of Syrian Kurdistan, offers aid

                    Netanyahu Warns Against Turkey's Ethnic Cleansing of 'Gallant Kurds'; Vows to Assist


                    • #25



                      • #26
                        If it's an accident why did they lie about it, first? Saying they didn't fire on any American positions.


                        • #27
                          Little side note
                          Interesting comments from Joel Rosenberg re the Kurds included in article
                          Trump Didn't Think He Could Ever Lose the Evangelical Vote — but Then He Abandoned the Kurds


                          The most interesting thing about Rosenberg's comments???
                          On Friday another gap appeared between what Israel/Rosenberg thought and reality..

                          At evangelical conference, concerns about Syria but cheers for Trump
                          Prominent evangelical leaders have sharply criticized U.S. President Donald Trump over his decision to pull American military forces out of Syria, saying he was endangering tens of thousands of Christians in the Muslim-dominated region.
                          But the response was more muted at an annual conference of religious conservatives on Friday in Washington, where some Christian activists were concerned about the Syria move but willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.

                          and articles starting to show up(in Israel) saying Trump knows he can get away with anything and the Christian right will keep supporting.
                          With quotes claiming Trump aides saying things like "Who else are they going to vote for, Elizabeth Warren"
                          Last edited by SAT; 10-13-2019, 03:01 PM.


                          • #28
                            Trump tells Pentagon to begin withdrawing remaining troops from Syria

                            "In the last 24 hours, we learned that [the Turks] likely intend to extend their attack further south than originally planned, and to the west," Defense Secretary Mark Esper said on CBS.

                            U.S. says reports of killing of Kurdish politician 'extremely troubling'
                            Last edited by SAT; 10-13-2019, 12:08 PM.


                            • #29
                              Meanwhile Russia is moving in. Attempting to add Israel and Egypt to it's free trade area.
                              Putin: Russia working on a free trade zone with Israel and Egypt, favors two-state solution

                              Russian unit attempting to destabilize Europe – Security officials

                              Putin isn't happy with just the middle east???
                              Last edited by SAT; 10-13-2019, 12:44 PM.


                              • #30
                                U.S. forces say Turkey was deliberately ‘bracketing’ American troops with artillery fire in Syria