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  • The Sons of God and the Nephilim

    Tom Horn SO beats around the bush selling his books!!! So I just sent him this note, which I'm sharing with ya'all

    Why dont you just tell the whole truth, instead of beating around the bush???
    About 200 Sons of God, ((only beings directly created by god are the sons of God)) decided to corrupt the human genome so there would no longer be any pure humans left. These fallen angels had children, called the hybrid Nephilim.
    Allmost every human had been corrupted by Noah's time, so God sent the flood... Sadly, Ham's wife was genetically corrupted, bore Cannan who Populated the land of Cannan.. God said to Israel to kill them all to protect the genome of the Hebrew people... By that time the recessive Nephilim gene had spread worldwide... And the Nephilim walk among us today... This is what its all about... Very soon now the fallen angels will visibly reappear as helpful aliens after the Rapture of the Church...
    The rest of the story you know, the 70th week of Daniel...
    My favorite joke is: "I know that all the Nephilim are liberals, but I'm not yet sure if all the liberals are Nephilim"
    Lewis, www.lewishb.tv

    PPs: Which may be the reason most people will not or cannot be saved as they have been corrupted by the recessive Nephilim gene.. scary thought, isn't it ???
    PPPs Its also why Jews are only to marry other Jews !!!
    Last edited by lewisb; 08-22-2019, 01:24 PM.

  • #2
    Where do you find the "About 200 Sons of God..."?

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    • #3
      I recently heard an expose about this, & I think it was in Enoch... that this troop descended to a Mountain top in what would eventually become Cannan... Deciding to corrupt the seed of men, and so that 200 chose many women to lay with and procreate... these angels are now bound awaiting their judgment...
      I am aware that Enoch is not Canon, But, like Josephus and Gilmagesh, we do get some fasinating glimpses into the past not found in the Bible...
      The critical identifier here is that only Adam and the Angels were the Sons of God, being directly created by God!!! All other people are sons and daughters of men !!

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      • #4
        Okay, extra-biblical material.
        I'm quite sure Tom Horn and staff will not respond as the data you provided would not be considered reliable to all. Only God's Word fills that requirement.
        Even the so-called, "Book of Enoch" is questioned as to the authenticity (unlike the works of Josphus). We don't know for sure if it was really written by Enoch so this lends even less credibilty for many folks (myself included).

        As for "Sons of God" I'm assuming you're referring to directly created by God - and I would agree with that. We are spiritual sons of God but not directly created by Him - as you said, we are sons of man.

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        • #5
          I believe that the new creation that we are in Christ is directly created by God. That is why we are referred to as sons of God after we are born again, that it is referring to the new creation that we are in Christ. That new creation that we are has God as our Father rather than the first Adam that the old man, that's been put off, had. As believers, we are no longer "of the first Adam" but rather, are now "of the last Adam.

          Romans 8:
          14
          For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.

          Galatians 3:
          26
          for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.

          1 John 3:
          1
          See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are. The reason why the world does not know us is that it did not know him.
          2 Beloved, we are God's children now, and what we will be has not yet appeared; but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.
          3 And everyone who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.

          2 Corinthians 5:
          17
          Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed away; behold, the new has come.

          Colossians 3:
          9
          Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
          10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:

          1 Corinthians 15:
          45
          And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
          46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
          47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.
          48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.
          49 And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.

          Just adding to the discussion ..

          Issachar
          The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

          Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

          I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

          Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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          • #6
            re. post #1

            Originally posted by Lewis
            Sadly, Ham's wife was genetically corrupted, ..
            I do not agree with that. The ark and those on it were God's preservation of the human race apart from all the genetics and whatnot of the time.

            Giants, etc. after the flood are true however:

            Genesis 6:
            4
            There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, . . .

            I believe that "after that" refers to the flood.

            If Mrs. Ham were corrupted with that whole fallen angel / nephilim thing then she too would have been destroyed; not on the ark.

            We don't know when the fallen angels were bound up. I think it was after the flood due to having started up again in their pre-flood endeavor.

            Issachar
            The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

            Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

            I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

            Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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            • #7
              Right, Issachar - all of the verses you site are spiritual sons and daughters of God. Yes, we have been born again and adopted but obviously this is also spiritually.

              As for Mrs. Ham - I couldn't agree with you more. I did a huge double-take when I read what Lewis wrote about her but didn't comment. Not only is that extra-biblical but I agree, there's no way I believe God would have allowed her to survive - why would He allow a half-demon person to come through that from which He was cleansing the earth? Wouldn't this mean ALL offspring of the Hams would have been evil beings, incapable of reconciliation to God? Again, I disagree wholeheartedly with this.

              There is a great deal that we simply cannot know as it's not written in God's Word - thus, we leave it to "interesting speculation" at best...or choose to reject it completely.

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              • #8
                Ok then,
                According to the Bible, the fallen angels did not cohabit with human women after the flood,,,So then how did the genome of Canaan become demonically corrupted causing the giants in Canaan? It had to come from somewhere !!! As well as the Giants in far Southern South America in the late 16th century??? as well as the giants living in Oceania, the South Pacific, up to the 19th century??

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                • #9
                  You're posing questions for which there are no biblical answers nor eye-witness accounts that can be found so I submit that God doesn't think we need to know that.
                  We can speculate all we want but we do well to be careful not to word what we say as if it is fact.
                  If the book of Enoch says that about Mrs. Ham then I submit it is false material and needs to be thrown into the fire so no one else gets their hands on it...that's my opinion, anyway.

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                  • #10
                    We know so little about ancient technology, though. Even Smithsonian Magazine has reported on Mayan brain surgery; sure, they were drilling holes in peoples' heads but they could survive, that's the amazing part. (Which means they must have retained some knowledge of antiseptic if not aseptic surgery, too.)

                    True, they'd have lacked the tools at first, but genetic alterations could have been possible even if the fallen angels didn't procreate with women. It wouldn't have taken aa huge steel-making plant to forge lots of such tools, only something to make a delicate enough tool to alter the DNA a little.
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                    • #11
                      Lewis, what do you think about “. . and also after that.”? (post #6 after the Genesis 6 quote) We know those particular fallen angels are in chains reserved unto the day of judgement, but we don’t know when they were put in those chains.

                      2 Peter 2:
                      4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;

                      If after the flood, that can explain “. . . and after that.”

                      Issachar
                      The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                      Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                      I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                      Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                      • #12
                        Iss Quote "and also after that."

                        Context seems imho to be saying that there were giants after the flood, which we know...What we don't know is how they got there!! I'm quite sure that it wasn't many years before God had had enough of their leaving their first estate and put those however many fallen angels in jail...

                        As a historian, I need to search all the 1st person accounts that are available... Where they DO NOT contradict Scripture or doctrine, imho they need at least to be given fair hearing... Yes, Enoch, as well as ALL other the ancient writers of history are inaccurate in places because their books were written by men, with the knowledge, worldview and sources they had available at that time...And no doubt some of them were retold many times as oral history for how many centuries before being written down.. All remote tribes have the basic Noah's flood story, btw...The Illiad , which happened maybe 1200-1400 BC,for example, was an oral history for maybe six hundred yours before Homer wrote it down... We don't throw it in the trash because there are maybe 6 versions of the story!!!
                        Last edited by lewisb; 08-23-2019, 07:56 PM.

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