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    Civil asset forfeiture is still theft of property by the state

    Civil asset forfeiture is legal robbery... people having assets siezed upon accusation, and its almost impossible to get them back... almost all the money property siezed goes to the local police & govt making theft irresistable to them........ in some places police stop and search people and cars for money and rob motorists of their cash saying having cash is unlawful activity... and there is no way you can get it back...
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    The US, along with most "developed" nations has a long history of legal theft. Need a new road? Eminent Domain is the trick. I think it all comes down to the tolerance of the populace for the concept of "Big Brother Knows Best".....

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    • #3
      """Eminent Domain"""
      Eminent Domain is theft pure and simple when the govt uses Eminent Domain to take one mans property and gives it to someone else so they can make money--and the politicians then get kickbacks ""campaign contributions"" "speaking fees"" in return...

      Also see my ""Calif volcanos about to erupt"" post above ...
      Last edited by lewisb; 07-22-2017, 12:03 PM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by PlumBob
        I think it all comes down to the tolerance of the populace for the concept of "Big Brother Knows Best".....
        Yep. Laziness. Independence takes stamina. There is a fruit known as freedom. There is a weed known as subservient. Fruit is something worked for. Weeds just happen. If a year is especially moist, the weeds grow like crazy. If it's a very dry year, the weeds grow like crazy. If there is concrete or asphalt put down, they still grow. Fruit? Needs care and toil.

        Issachar
        The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

        Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

        I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

        Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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        • #5
          In an ideal world, the government would provide security for the nation, take care of infrastructure and a bit more .. and leave the citizenry alone. But as it is, SS is a tax. Medicare is a tax. Most permits are a tax .. on top of all the "real" tax. Anything the government takes, is a tax. They use different names so as to be able to say the tax rate is "only" thus ..

          But, all that is "the world." Our freedom is in Christ. He overcame death and sin that those who believe on Him can have life eternal. The "world" can't touch that; cannot tax that and cannot even fathom that.

          Issachar
          The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

          Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

          I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

          Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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          • #6
            Which would bring this discussion full circle to the age old question - which is Not the purpose of WeDG - "what is the ultimate nature of the relation between God and man?"

            If I believe that all I have (the use of) is loaned to me by God, who ultimately OWNS Everything, because He created everything, then I have no cause to lament when He chooses to redeploy that which he controls (away from me, and to another.) Yes?

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            • #7
              Plumbob said ""then I have no cause to lament when He chooses to redeploy that which he controls (away from me, and to another.) Yes?

              In this case its not God but sinful man... Do you really think that God took my car to give to someone else? No! He is not the author of confusion, evil or sin...
              The wickedness of the human heart is the author of confusion, evil or sin...

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              • #8
                Of course the theft of your car was the action of a sinful person. Prompted by the father of sin - Satan. Nor do I for a moment argue that it was not "a car" given (loaned) to you by God - a car for you to use as you deem fit and needful. To allow You to do God's work on earth. To go to the beach, go fishing, get groceries, witness to a doctor, Etc....... Bring that back around, too, and you get the ultimate struggle between good and evil - Satan through his prompting of sin in the hands of a sinful person, tries very hard to thwart Your Godliness when you use the car to do what you do - by stealing your car - making it harder for you to do the Godly things you do.

                I also know in my heart that you and I are on the same page in this

                I also know that part of your role in this whole game of life thing, is to Make Other People Think..... And you do a very good job of that!!!!

                Do you ever sleep? Or does your brain engage 24-hours a day thinking of ways to make other people think? LOL

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                • #9
                  Sam said: """Do you ever sleep? Or does your brain engage 24-hours a day thinking of ways to make other people think? LOL """

                  Welllllllllllllllllllllllllll make that 15 hours a day gotta sleep sometime !!!! I HAVE been told by people that I make their brain hurt!!!!
                  My best friend Kermit said / complained ""You have been thinking about that HOW LONG? and I'm suspposed to be able to follow (understand) you???

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                  • #10
                    ROFLOL

                    Say "Good night, Lewis...."

                    Good Night, Lewis

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