God addressed as a "she"

Can someone please help me combat this feminist agenda, by addressing God as a "she"! I am hearing it so much now and I don't know where the origins of it came from, it just isn't right.

[Issachar]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

Hey Roro! Great to hear from you.

True believers will not refer to God as a she. Even the most superficial reading of scripture won't allow that. It has it's roots in paganism .. you know; gaia, mother earth, etc. It is common in all the earth based religions.

The "world" will do what the "world" does best in it's darkness; sin. Just about any breathing human knows that there is some "higher power." So they love to make up their own whateveritishigherpower. That way they can make sure it's one that cannot hold them accountable. That way they get to have a god and do what they want, at the same time.

So just know that the Lord, HE is God.

Psalms 100:
3 Know ye that the LORD he is God: it is he that hath made us, and not we ourselves; we are his people, and the sheep of his pasture.

We are in the world, but not of the world. The world will do whatever is pleasing or seemingly pleasing, for itself and the body of Christ, will do God the FATHER'S good pleasure.

Issachar, knows that a father is a he.

[roro]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

thanks Issachar...but the folks referring to Him as a "she" are pastors (3 I've heard so far)....ugh!!!! I don't know how much more I can take!
I want to say something and can come from the basis of scripture, God being addressed as "Father", "King", all of the masculine terms. But then they will say it was written in a time when men were dominate and oppressive of women.
I just don't feel as if I am able to hold up to this task without loosing it! Should I say something, shoot it down or just not say anything?

[Guest]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

look up Ishtar and Baal...... the Druids.......

The world is morphing from secular humanism into a spiritual, galactic humanism based on the pantheism of eastern religions.

One way to rebut this movement is to point out that these people are reverting to the ancient paganism of nature worship where ""Mother Earth"" is the living force that created and sustains them. this is from the English/ European Druids especially..

This "new thought" is ancient and is mixed up with the Mother/ child worship from the Babylonian religion exported to Egypt, Greece and Rome.......which herisy was brought into the Roman church.......
The ancient Hebrews were continually seduced by this worship of Ishtar and Baal......

In the end, however, scripture says that only the power of the Holy Spirit can end this delusion........ argueing with these deceived people is futile other than to get them saved..

Lewis

[Issachar]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

These are "pastors" at your church?

One of the most detestable things people "do" to scripture is try to say that this passage or that passage or the way this or that was written, was an era/culture thing. UGHH!!

God wrote it. God is eternal. God is ALWAYS right. To me it would not matter what sort of connections I've had with a church or how long ... if they teach heresy and don't want to hear the Word; I'm outta there.

I was in the same church for 25 years. Raised my 4 oldest there and the two youngest (12 year gap there) got started there .. the pastor presided over the marriage of the first 4 ... then they drifted into the dominion theology junk and said Israel was no more significant than Parguay .. the got into the NAR thing .. I tried talking to them about why I didn't believe this is scriptural and they, without using scripture, said it is "the new thing that God is doing." We left. The kids were getting confused over what we taught/talked about at home and what they heard in church. I was tired of always having to be on the defensive when listening to a sermon there.

Issachar, believes that the Word of God is forever for all ..

[MoreThanConquerors]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

I understand the pagan origins of God being a she...Ishtar, Godesses, Lillith....all that.

Personally, I don't think the recent rash of this has to do with being rooted in all that. I think it's just a result of aggressive feminism.

[M from M]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

roro,
mine isn't an articulate post nor Journalistic. Might even be removed.
It may not post well???

However i have heard comments like your post from the mormon relatives

and their Mormon coaches about being a man/woman 'god' with each their
own planet. As to Pastor/Preacher... we don't want moi' to go there.

Here are 2 sites, i use more recently.
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http://www.cuttingedge.org/
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HOW FEMINIST SPIRITUALITY IS CHANGING THE CHURCH: And Betraying ...She 'God' is going to change. We women... will change the world so much that He won't fit anymore."1 (Naomi Goldenberg in Changing of the Gods: Feminism and ...
www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1645.cfm
WOMEN PREACHERS - From A Pastor's HeartIf God had been calling women to serve in that capacity during those years, all the male chauvinists under heaven and their traditions could not have ...
www.cuttingedge.org/articles/p257.htm
TBN -- TRINITY BROADCAST NETWORD -- TEMPLE OF THE GOD AND GODDESSHe created man in His image and then created woman. There are no female angels because the angelic host were created in the image of God before women were ...
www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1841.cfm

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This Directory lists articles on What a Cult is and how to recognize you're in one.

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L.D.S- Mormonism-12 million plus members worldwide claim to have the restored gospel that the bible left out, teach that we too can become Gods.
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This Directory lists articles on the LDS Church, Mormonism

http://www.mormonchallenge.com/streaming.htm
A Mormons pre-existence- Looking at the Gods plan for salvation. From mans intelligence to being birthed as pre-existent spirits in heaven to Godhood from the Mormon perspective

http://www.letusreason.org/LDS24.htm
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Mormonism does hold: “This doctrine that there is a Mother in Heaven was affirmed in plainness by the First Presidency of the Church... they said that 'man, as a spirit, was begotten and born of heavenly parents, and reared to maturity in the eternal mansions of the Father,' that man is the 'offspring of celestial parentage, 'and that 'all men and women are in the similitude of the universal Father and Mother, and are literally the sons and daughters of Deity” (McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 1979, p. 516).

Milton R. Hunter, who served in the First Council of the Seventy stated “The stupendous truth of the existence of a Heavenly Mother, as well as a Heavenly Father, became established facts in Mormon theology” (The Gospel Through the Ages, 1958, p.98).
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Which god do Mormons worship
Men are awarded dominion over their own planet where they will gather ..... “their own God,” on different planets, then logically, each of these “Gods” must ...
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www.letusreason.org/WF31.htm - Cached - SimilarWhy I Left Mormonism
As a Mormon, I learned that the Mormon Church was God's only true church. ... become like God himself, and populate his own planets with children whom he will .... When Dr. Stuckert has constructed his table for each census year, ...
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### ANd lastly here is my-not-so-Bright comment to my
Mormon relatives; " I can prove to you G-d is not a female.
How, they reply, God is a She.
I continue, No* IF, G-D were a she/female, which HE isn't,
"she" would have wrapped-this-up-a-long-time-ago". Ever had your mother ..... They simle and reply , Good Point.


I admit not the smartest debate,but have not ever had them
bring the subject up again,about G-D being a female. Period.

[Guest]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

thanks Issachar...but the folks referring to Him as a "she" are pastors (3 I've heard so far)....ugh!!!! I don't know how much more I can take!
I want to say something and can come from the basis of scripture, God being addressed as "Father", "King", all of the masculine terms. But then they will say it was written in a time when men were dominate and oppressive of women.
I just don't feel as if I am able to hold up to this task without loosing it! Should I say something, shoot it down or just not say anything?

Roro,

IMHO Here is the answer to those who claim that God is presented as masculine because of the culture in which it was written. Consider Moses and the 5 books he wrote. Moses was raised and educated in Egyptian culture. Why is there no hint of Egyptian influence in the Torah? You can contrast period Egyptian views on health and medicine to the dietary laws of the Torah and find that they could not be further apart. You can contrast any aspect of Egyptian culture with the Torah and find a startling lack of cross pollination. Why? Moses wrote the Torah by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. He didn't write out of his own world view or the cultural conventions of his day.

[Guest]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

Hi Roro..........I went through this very battle here in 1999. It was emerging everywhere...particularly in one denomination....mine! I was getting sick over it all. It emerged as God is our Father...and our mother! I blew a fuse and had meetings with the pastors. It finally got stopped and I haven't heard it since......although I do believe it is emerging once again...this time under the label of "fiction"...god is a female that is.........the feminization of the Deity!

I know what you are going through and it is very stressful!! It is all part of the end-time delusion. To get to the end-time all inclusive deity worship they have to first feminize God. In Hinduism, one of the gods in the female form is know as LORD.

Think of what is happening in the end-time global interfaith summits..the first I remember started with Pope John Paul II with his call for all world religions to come to Assisi for prayer..one if thinking, must ask why would he do that when the Bible clearly states there is only one mediator between God and man, the man Jesus Christ. Since then there have been many interfaith calls, another prominent one being by the Bush administration following 9/11..every religion showed up to pray after 9/11. Another was when King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia went to see the Pope and called for a global interfaith summit it came to be in July 2008 hosted by King Juan Carlos in Madrid. There have been 3 more interfaith summits since then that I know of. From the 2008 summit recommendations were sent to the UN to criminalize the blasphemers.....i.e. ones who won't go for this....but who will state what Scripture declares to be true that Jesus is the way, the truth and the way and that there is no other way to the Father but by Him.

I believe all this is the Mystery Babylonian religion of Revelation emerging unaware to many.........there is a call to come out of her, so not to receive of her judgements. To come out, people have to first recognize what is happening!

Warn.and then come out imho if it continues!

Just wondering what area you are in!

[Issachar]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

I think it's just a result of aggressive feminism.

I think if you research "aggressive feminism", you will find yourself looking at paganism ... earth based religions. The so called "radical feminists" are very steeped in those ancient religions. Even those that are not aware that they are, are being led about by the same spirits of ancient times.

Moses wrote the Torah by inspiration of the Holy Spirit. He didn't write out of his own world view or the cultural conventions of his day.

Very good. Very true. Great perspective. Thank you.

Issachar, always asks those that say this or that in scripture is a cultural thing, for "the list." They ask what list? I say, of course, the one that tells us what's for today and what isn't so I don't waste time studying the useless scripture. I have to admit .. it's interesting to see their reaction.

[roro]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

Thank you so much everyone.

I am in a Methodist denomination. I know that has its own issues, but for this present time, we are still in it, my husband is a pastor of his own church within the denomination.
I have been seeing posts (on facebook) by different pastors addressing God as "she" and my husband also told me he heard at one of the gatherings of pastors that one pastor addressed God in prayer as feminine.
I might just write the bishop a letter to see if he will address this to the pastors next week at one of our conferences.
It makes me so mad, that I can just spit!

I am copying all of what has been said and putting it into a Word document to help me explain. I knew it had to do with feminism and also ancient pagan female gods.

pray for me if you have the time, thanks so much. I love this site.

[Guest]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

This was released the same year I had the issue...1999

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/fa...r-1071545.html

Faithful pray to God the Mother


FOR CENTURIES Christians have prayed to God the Father, but now a new Methodist worship book has moved with the times - and decided to call God Mother.

The controversial prayer, which addresses God "our Father and our Mother", makes the Methodists the first mainstream Christian denomination in this country to depart from the traditional language used to describe God in its liturgy.

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God is not a person. God is spirit and without gender. The fact that we've used male imagery so extensively has in a sense reinforced the picture of God as a man, and the fact that Jesus is male has done that as well but, if all human beings are created in God's image, feminine as well as masculine attributes must reflect God's nature," he said.

The above is the exact argument the pastors here used to feminize God (the same year)


Methodist Prayer..........

God our Father and our Mother,

we give you thanks and praise

for all that you have made,

for the stars in their splendour

and the world in its wonder

and for the glorious gift of human life.

With the saints and angels in heaven

we praise your holy name.

The same year, they had a God is with Us Festival at our city's waterfront...I was't there but there was a responsive reading..It began "God is our Father and Mother............."

[Glorify Him]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

Hi Roro--great to see you posting. The Episcopal church did this "inclusive language" thing as it is called back in the late 1980's. I think it all about being politically correct--and not really tied to all the ancient goddess worship. Repugnant however. It wasn't an accident that God chose to present himself as Father.

[Guest]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

I don't think that the book "The Shack" helped any, either - realizing that some of us here didn't have any problem with that.

Roro, I was going to say "Run for your life, Roro!" but after reading on, I realize that you can't! Sounds to me like you very well may be the light that can't be hid under the bushel. Praying for you!

[M from M]

Re: God addressed as a "she"

roro,

I don't want to assume something.


Seeing as that your husband is a Pastor, has/does he present an answer
to this issue. If so , i shall not post again, no need.
Part of what i was taught had to involve both Scripture and science,
to put this question to a conclusion.

Might i suggest you start with the word "Seed" and do a search at
the easier Bible Version : http://www.blueletterbible.org/

fallow it to it's conclusion and you will have an unshakable presentation.

bb to see if i should post more.



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