OBAMA'S HEALTH CARE-euthanisia

[Guest]

OBAMA'S HELL-TH CARE- PROOF OF THE DEATH SQUADS CONTAINED WITHIN IT!
OBAMACARE-THE HORRFYING DETAILS THAT THEY ARE NOT TELLING US!

The following is a breakdown by a Texas Judge who HAS read the entire Healthcare Bill (unlike most of the members of Congress who HAVE NOT read it). He has dissected Obamacare and below, covers some of the most disturbing aspects included in the 20 pound, 2309 page bill that according to Pelsoi: "It's going to be historic." . That is the one thing that they are being truthful about-this bill will change the history of America to where we will be similar to a Nazi Germany where the elderly and disabled will be essentially euthanized by disallowing medical treatment. It will be the ruination of America, the superpower, and a terrifying prospect for all Americans!
March 20 2010
http://theworldisshaking.blogspot.co...-of-death.html

[Issachar]

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It will be the ruination of America, the superpower, ...

Actually, that power lies not with man.

Much goes into the reasons that God takes away any nation. As bad as the health care legislation may be, it isn't any worse than allowing the murder of unborn children, the production and distribution of pornography, the banning of prayer in places public, etc., etc.

As far as economic ruin goes ... that's been a done deal. How it occurs is irrelevant.

Issachar, sees the health care fiasco as an increase in the rate of deterioration that is already in progress.

[M from M]

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0/ I have 'progressive' M.S.

And if Ys search the net' at; WorldnetDaily Search engine ( left-side bar)
and input "euthanasia'', at least 4-5 States ,here in the U.S.A.
will pop-up, that have laws already on their books.

This VERSE will Then apply: http://www.blueletterbible.org/searc...he+altar&t=KJV


Rev 6:9 ¶ And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held:


Rev 6:10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth?


Guess 'they' think 'm taking in tooooo much air, water+food...etc.

\0/ \0/ \0/ 'm Redeemed'd'd' , Saved'd'd'

[Andy]

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Wonder how many of the 2000+ pages is completely "unconstitutional"...the battle cry of activist judges and so many other liberals that are destroying the nation.

Anyway, I'm with you, Issachar. I'm not going to get all twisted up over this...just as sure as Obama's election was inevitable and a reflection of the general state of this nation so this, and so many other unbelievable events, is a reflection, too. It may be argued that there was a lot of fraudulent dealings that put Obama into office (I'm still not convinced that 56% of American voters voted for him but I sure could be wrong) but certainly the people of this nation put our Congress into power so..the nation is getting exactly what it asked for. Had enough American's voted differently this bill would have never made it.

ALL things are in the hands of our Almighty God. And for those of us that "Love God" and are "called according to His purpose" all things work for good...everything. Most of us have believed for years that the demise of America was necessary for prophetic scriptures to unfold...well, here we are, folks. Perhaps secretly we've hoped it wouldn't be "me" that lived to experience it. I sure have to confess I've spent some time living in that camp...but we must hold on to the verses that promise such things as Romans 8:28 and so many others.

[Guest]

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for a long time I have felt just as the Romans soldiers of the 5th century must have felt, seeing the campfires of the barbarian horde just outside the city walls of Rome.....
Knowing that there was nothing that could be done to prevent the sack of Rome in the morning........ the fall of the empire.........

[Tasarwen]

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It may be argued that there was a lot of fraudulent dealings that put Obama into office (I'm still not convinced that 56% of American voters voted for him but I sure could be wrong) but certainly the people of this nation put our Congress into power so..the nation is getting exactly what it asked for. Had enough American's voted differently this bill would have never made it.

I think only 52% voted for him, Andy. Although, my memory may not be serving me well.

You know, I don't know what is more scary, "O" or the uninformed who voted for him. I think congress and "O" are what we ended up with as a result of the "hate Bush" campaign that was very successfully waged by the libs and the lame-stream news media. Pitiful....

I thank the Lord everyday that this world is not my permanent home. Thank goodness!

[GSheff]

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"** Page 58 and 59: The government will have real-time access to an individual's bank account and will have the authority to make electronic fund transfers from those accounts."
"** Page 50/section 152: The bill will provide insurance to all non-U.S. residents, even if they are here illegally."
"** Page 65/section 164: The plan will be subsidized (by the government) for all union members, union retirees and for community organizations (such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now - ACORN)."
"** Page 203/line 14-15: The tax imposed under this section will not be treated as a tax. (How could anybody in their right mind come up with that?)"

[Andy]

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So is there a digital copy of this thing somewhere on the Internet (reliable source)? Can we verify all of the quotes that we are starting to see pop up all over? This situation is no different (in fact even more important than usual, IMHO) that we are posting the truth. It's real easy to start spreading rumors with false quotes and false references.

[Tasarwen]

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The very people tasked to write the healthcare legislation appear to have cleverly exempted themselves from the mandated coverage for everyone else.

More here....

Now, does that not make your hearts go pitter patter? How disgusting....

[Guest]

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The entire text of the bill is at http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h3590/text

The text of the reconciliation bill that has been sent back to the Senate is at this same site, too.

I read the HR 3590 bill 3 or 4 weeks ago (this being the bill that the Senate previously passed,) but haven't tackled the reconciliation bill (HR 4872).

Unfortunately, these are web files (HTML) and can't be printed out easily (not that anyone wants to kill a tree for this.)

Tasarwen, that's a VERY interesting article you linked to above. Makes you wonder how many other "Protected groups" will wind up not being subject to this. The physicians where I work are EXTREMELY SKEPTICAL that anything positive will come from this.

[Guest]

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Let's think this through - (Thanks, Tasarwen, for starting me thinking, that lasted well into the night )
Who else is not covered by the new healthcare bill?

Obama
The Secret Service, Obama's protection agency
White House staffers
People who work for congress in general, but not a particular congressperson.
The Supreme Court and all of their staff
FBI and CIA, most likely
The various agencies - Justice, Defense, HHS, etc, most likely
The Military

So we have a hierarchy that has wrapped itself around the Leader. Like an onion. Layers and layers of insulation.

We also see that the Congress has laid down on the tracks and subjected itself to the same indignation of the common people - in order to (hopefully) deflect some of the wrath against the concept.

I for one think there has to be a prophetic analogy here. Anybody else want to tackle that?

[Issachar]

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Who else is not covered by the new healthcare bill?

Obama
The Secret Service, Obama's protection agency
White House staffers
People who work for congress in general, but not a particular congressperson.
The Supreme Court and all of their staff
FBI and CIA, most likely
The various agencies - Justice, Defense, HHS, etc, most likely
The Military

In a socialist/dictator system, there is always the ruling elite with privelege and the ruled, usually oppressed, masses (see post #18 here). I think this is a part of what is to eventually be a one-world-order which I believe, will be some version, on a global scale, what we've seen throughout history in various nations.

Issachar

[Andy]

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I for one think there has to be a prophetic analogy here. Anybody else want to tackle that?

This is HUGE prophetically, IMHO.

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

In order for the kings of the earth to hand over their kingdoms they have to have control of the common-folk, right? With Mr. Obama's OWG mindset, his first order of business is to get complete control over all American's - then he can hand that control over to ......

What say ye all?

[JohnR]

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Let's think this through - (Thanks, Tasarwen, for starting me thinking, that lasted well into the night )
Who else is not covered by the new healthcare bill?

Obama
The Secret Service, Obama's protection agency
White House staffers
People who work for congress in general, but not a particular congressperson.
The Supreme Court and all of their staff
FBI and CIA, most likely
The various agencies - Justice, Defense, HHS, etc, most likely
The Military

So we have a hierarchy that has wrapped itself around the Leader. Like an onion. Layers and layers of insulation.

We also see that the Congress has laid down on the tracks and subjected itself to the same indignation of the common people - in order to (hopefully) deflect some of the wrath against the concept.

I for one think there has to be a prophetic analogy here. Anybody else want to tackle that?

I'm not sure the military should be lumped in with the others who are "exempt". Military health care has be "nationalized" for quite some time (something about military/contract doctors, nurses, etc). An active duty member trying to seek outside care has a lot to lose if they aren't referred by the "system".

[JohnR]

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This is HUGE prophetically, IMHO.

Revelation 17:17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.

In order for the kings of the earth to hand over their kingdoms they have to have control of the common-folk, right? With Mr. Obama's OWG mindset, his first order of business is to get complete control over all American's - then he can hand that control over to ......

What say ye all?

Hasn't that been the first order of business for any dictator whether Rev 17:17 is in view or not?