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  • Re: Fundamentally Transforming America

    From post #88
    Originally posted by Issachar
    "Everything is in place - after 500 years - to build a true 'new world'
    in the Western Hemisphere... And what happens if we don't pass NAFTA?
    I truly don't think that 'criminal' would be too strong a word for
    rejecting NAFTA."

    David Rockefeller
    Source: Wall Street Journal, October 1, 1993

    "NAFTA represents the single most creative step towards a New World Order."
    Henry Kissinger
    (1923- ) Former US Secretary of State
    Source: Aug.1993, Los Angeles Times Syndicate

    NAFTA, CAFTA ... all the so called "free trade agreements" are steps towards the globalisation of the world.
    Today:
    Perot is famous (among other things) for his statement during the 1992 presidential campaign that if NAFTA (North American Free Trade Agreement) was not a two way street would create a “giant sucking sound” of jobs going south to the cheap labor markets of Mexico.

    Both of Perot’s opponents (George H.W. Bush and Bill Clinton) argued that NAFTA would create jobs in the U.S. because of business expansion.

    However, the goods balance of trade for the U.S. with Mexico has been negative and steadily growing over the years. In 2010 it amounted to $61.6 billion, which was 9.5% of the total goods trade deficit last year.

    So Perot has been vindicated in his opinion; expanded free trade has not been accompanied by an increase in jobs in the U.S. relative to the vast numbers of jobs created in the rest of the world as NAFTA became just a stepping stone on the pathway to global commerce.

    . . . . the cumulative job loss, amounting to almost 29 million jobs by the end of 2010.
    source

    Issachar

    Edit to add: Interesting that the number of murdered children via abortion that would be employed right now almost matches the number of jobs that have left .. not quite; it's less. The difference would be made up by the now unemployed that survived the flow of innocent blood in America.
    The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

    Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

    I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

    Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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    • Re: Fundamentally Transforming America

      There is a movie out now called "Agenda; Grinding America Down." About it, with a trailer, is here: http://agendadocumentary.com/ (see post #102)

      At 55 seconds into the trailer is a comment by John Stormer, author of "None Dare Call It Treason." Just interesting. That book from the mid-sixties was followed by Gary Allen's book, "None Dare Call It Conspiracy", in the early seventies.

      None Dare Call It Conspiracy is free online here: http://www.archive.org/stream/NoneDa...ge/n0/mode/1up Just use the left and right arrows at the bottom right corner of the screen. Zoom if needed.

      There is a pdf version of it here: http://www.archive.org/details/NoneDareCallItConspiracy (See top left box; "View the Book" and you'll see the PDF link.)

      The fourth page in it is called, "What Those "In The Know" Say ... I'll copy and paste that here:

      WHAT THOSE "IN THE KNOW" SAY

      • I wish that every citizen of every country in the free world and every slave behind the Iron Curtain might read this book.

      Ezra Taft Benson — Former Secretary of Agriculture


      • NDCC is an admirable job of amassing information to prove that communism is socialism and socialism (a plot to enslave the world) is not a movement of the downtrodden but a scheme supported and directed by the wealthiest of people.

      If enough Americans read and act upon NDCC, they really can save the Republic from the conspirators — whose plans for the destruction of our country are galloping fast toward completion.

      Dan Smoot — Former Assistant to J. Edgar Hoover


      • Now that NDCC is available, I no longer need to answer "no" to the question which is often put to me, namely: "Mr. Dodd, is there a book which I can read so I can know what you know?" No higher praise is possible for this book.

      Norman Dodd — Chief Investigator Reece Committee to Investigate Foundations


      • This book concerns the way in which our nation and other nations are actually governed. As Benjamin Disaeli said, this is not the way in which most people think nations are governed. The whole subject of the Insiders who so largely control our political and economic lives is a fascinating mystery.

      For the reader who is intelligent but uninitiated in the literature of superpolitics, I can think of no better introduction to the field than NDCC.

      Dr. Medford Evans — Former Chief of Security for the Atom Bomb Project


      • Since people of the Jewish faith have been the number one historical victims of the Communist Conspiracy, we wish every member of our faith would carefully read this book so they will become aware of the forces which often attempt to manipulate them.

      Dr. Barney Finkel — President, The Jewish Right


      • Whatever one dares to call the apparatus described and documented in this book, he will ignore it at his peril. 1972 may well be our last chance to defuse this destructive device. This book tells you how you can expose and demolish it.

      Dean Clarence E. Manion — Former Dean Notre Dame law School

      Issachar

      P.S. I have a hope that on occassion, as time may allow, at least some of you will browse through some of the resources in this thread. I think a lot of the historical ones show that at least some of what we see today has been being orchestrated for quite a long time.
      Last edited by Issachar; 02-19-2011, 11:38 AM. Reason: formatting
      The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

      Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

      I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

      Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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        More on the (so called) education front:

        Excerpts from this article:

        What is so mind boggling is that all of this is being financed by the American people themselves through their own taxes. In other words, the American people are underwriting the destruction of their own freedom and way of life by lavishly financing through federal grants the very social scientists who are undermining our national sovereignty and preparing our children to become the dumbed-down vassals of the new world order. It reminds one of how the Nazis charged their victims train fare to their own doom.” – Samuel L. Blumenfeld (From the Foreword of the deliberate dumbing down of america by Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, 3rd printing, 2001, p. xi.
        The trashing of the schools as centers of academic learning has been planned since Carnegie Corporation in 1934 published its Conclusions and Recommendations for the Social Studies.[3] The report called for moving the United States from a free market system to a planned economy (socialism) necessary for U.S. participation in the “new world” (p.11-12), and “new order” (p.35, 36).
        “Mr. Dodd, all of us who have a hand in the making of policies here have had experience operating under directives, the substance of which is that we shall use our grant-making power so to alter life in the United States that it can be comfortably merged with the Soviet Union.” – Norman Dodd (in a meeting with Rowan Gaither, President of the Ford Foundation, during Congressional Hearings to Investigate the Tax-Exempt Foundations, 1953)

        What we are looking at is the carrying out of what Gaither explained to Dodd. Our constitutional elective representative form of government is being replaced with a communist/regional/unelective/appointive system of government.

        In a speech to the Soviet Central Committee on November 2, 1987 (published by Novosti Press Agency Publishing House), Mikhail Gorbachev, then General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, said:

        “We are moving toward a new world, the world of communism. We shall never turn off that road.”
        These are from the part 1 of 2 article.

        Issachar
        The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

        Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

        I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

        Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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          Hey Issachar, just letting you know that I am slowly reading through some of the book you mentioned. Can't help but think of Glenn's program yesterday when he talked about conspiracy theories and how the government is handling them, even to the point of still calling them conspiracy theories when they prove true.

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            Originally posted by Denise
            Hey Issachar, just letting you know that I am slowly reading through some of the book you mentioned.
            That is encouraging to know Denise. Books like that and one of the others I mentioned in this thread, John Taylor Gatto's; Underground History of American Education, online here, are wonderful for understanding how we got where we are as a nation, and why. Of course, always in through the lense of scripture.

            Originally posted by Denise
            Can't help but think of Glenn's program yesterday when he talked about conspiracy theories and how the government is handling them, even to the point of still calling them conspiracy theories when they prove true.
            Can you give a link to this? Is he saying that the government is calling certain things conspiracy theories? The KJV of the Bible has the word "conspiracy" 10 times and "conspired" 19 times. Men conspire. They have since the fall. Conspiring is nothing more than men plotting together to accomplish a goal they believe in. The Bolshevik Revolution didn't "just happen", for example. Neither did the American Revolution; or any other revolution. Bombing attacks are planned by whomever is involved .. often years of planning. What is happeing with the economy isn't "just happening." We have the words of many, in print, to see that isn't so. Much planning, often spanning generations, is involved. There will be a one world order one day and it is actually in the planning stages .. actually, past the planning stages and in the implementation stage with modifications as necessary ..

            Interesting days ...

            Issachar
            The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

            Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

            I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

            Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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            • Re: Fundamentally Transforming America

              Hi Issachar, I believe that he was talking about this on monday's program.

              Check it out at:

              http://www.watchglennbeck.com

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                Thanks Denise! wow .. I didn't even listen to Monday's show yet, but saw just above it:

                Tonight: Democracy sounds great, but even the Founders knew that it would eventually lead to mob rule and that’s what is happening in the Middle East and what is happening right now in Wisconsin.
                What is so strange to me about that? Seconds before I clicked on the link, my wife and I were discussing how it seems to us, that the scariest aspect of humanity is spreading across the globe; that is, "mob mentality." When that happens, reason is out the window. Discussion is out the window. Thinking is out the window. And worse? Truth is out the window. We have believed for many years that there are powerful spiritual forces at work in such scenerios. Then to turn from the discussion with my wife, and to see your post, and go there and first off, see the above quote, was rather .. interesting. Our discussion stemmed from the just now news that oil had hit $99. We suppose that will take us from $3.29/gal. to $3.49 or more. We speculated, if the ME unrest continues and especially if it grows, that we'll be seeing $4 or more by the end of another month or two.

                Now .. back to seeing Monday's program; in pieces since I have to go do some wiring at someone's house they're selling and some stuff needs to be brought to code.

                Issachar
                Last edited by Issachar; 02-23-2011, 10:49 PM. Reason: gramma .. I mean, grammar :)
                The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                  I just had opportunity to finish that video Denise from this past Monday. Very good and thank you.

                  We don't know where all this will go exactly, but we do know it is all towards a one world order.

                  There are people at the top of things (of this world) that are orchestrating all this. Poor people can and do, complain about the rich or being oppressed, etc. but are very tied up in getting from one day to the next. They are often without hope that anything will change for them because they know they have no real ability to bring about change. So they just go on .... So when there are these "uprisings", you can be almost certain that someone/something, is making it happen; stirring up the "oppressed"; getting them to say, "Ya! .. ya! That's it! That's true! Etc."

                  I remember in 1978 .. I was working in a warehouse at the time .. member of the Teamsters. Contract time. No one in the warehouse wanted to strike. They actually reasoned "IF we get this much, we would have to work THIS much to make up for what we lose by striking "this" much, etc." Then we went to a union meeting on a Saturday. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. All the guys went there saying no strike. Then this guy in an expensive suit, paid for out these guys' pockets, walks out and in a couple minutes, had everyone (just about) saying, "Ya! .. ya! That's it! That's true! Etc. We'll strike!" It was amazing. I was a Christian then too and I could almost sense some sort of a spiritual "something" moving through the place. It had nothing to do with whether or not it was right for them to strike or not. It was more a spiritual thing. Nothing like rioting in the streets or anything .. but just interesting how large numbers of people's minds can be changed so easily.

                  Issachar
                  The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                  Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                  I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                  Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                  • Re: Fundamentally Transforming America

                    This part one / part two (so far .. to be continued) article is a good read.

                    From the start of part one:
                    David Rockefeller, the founder and honorary Chairman of the Trilateral Commission, has written,

                    "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it." (David Rockefeller, Memoirs, Random House, New York, 2002, p. 405.)
                    I sometimes wonder what those like Rush Limbaugh, who denounce all things conspiracy, do with quotes like the above. As shown throughout this thread, those that conspire, are rather prolific, up front, writers. We need not resort to the (so called) "guy in his mom's basement with an internet connection." Besides, most of this stuff was out and is around, long before there was an internet.

                    From part two:
                    In our first installment, we left you with several questions to ponder. What is the Trilateral Commission? What is the CFR? Who controls the organizations? Where did they come from? What is their goal?

                    Before you can understand the answer to those questions, you must learn the purpose and goal of the secret society that Cecil Rhodes founded in 1891 because the CFR, the Bilderbergs, and the Trilateral Commission are descendents of that covert organization.

                    Professor Carroll Quigley was one of the leading historians of the twentieth century, and taught at Princeton and Harvard before he accepted a position at Georgetown University. Professor Quigley accidently discovered Cecil Rhodes' secret society. He researched it for twenty years, examined their secret records, and wrote two books about the covert movement. Professor Quigley's first book, "The Anglo-American Establishment," was completed in 1949 or 1950, but it was suppressed for 30 years. His second book, "Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time," was suppressed for 6-8 years, but both books are available today.

                    How did Professor Quigley learn about the secret society? Sir Alfred Zimmern was a member of the inner core of the Group from 1910 to 1922, but he became disillusioned, and gradually drifted away from the covert movement. Twenty-four years later, Sir Zimmern met Professor Quigley, and told him about the Group, but Zimmern made Quigley promise he wouldn't reveal the source of his information.

                    How do I know that took place? I visited Georgetown University in 1980, and read the letters Carroll Quigley wrote to Alfred Zimmern and the letters Alfred Zimmern wrote to Carroll Quigley as well as hundreds of other letters and documents. In addition, Professor Quigley's book, "The Anglo-American Establishment," mentions the fact that Alfred Zimmern was a member of the inner circle of the secret society from 1910 to 1922, but didn't reveal the source of that information. ( Carroll Quigley, The Anglo-American Establishment, op. cit. p. 5.)
                    It is an easy matter to find info on Cecil Rhodes ... after whom Rodesia was named .. now Zambia and Zimbabwe. What you'll find are the words of men who have been conspiring to bring about a one world order; something that requires the "fundamental transformation of America."

                    Issachar
                    The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                    Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                    I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                    Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                    • Re: Fundamentally Transforming America

                      Adding to post #114 ... part 3:

                      Excerpt
                      Senator Barry Goldwater warned the American people about the danger posed by the CFR and the Trilateral Commission in 1979 when he wrote:

                      "Whereas the Council on Foreign Relations is distinctly national in membership, the Trilateral Commission is international . . . It is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States." [9]

                      Does the Trilateral Commission (and the CFR) control the U.S. government today? Yes. Between 1977 and 2008, every president and/or vice president of the United States was a member of the Trilateral Commission: i.e. Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and Dick Cheney. In addition, during the twenty-one year period (prior to 2009): six of the eight presidents of the World Bank were members of the TC, eight of the 10 U.S. Trade representatives were members of the TC, seven of the twelve secretaries of state were members of the TC, nine of the twelve secretaries of defense were members of the TC, and most of the other key positions in the Republican and Democrat administrations were held by members of the CFR. [10] At the present time TC members hold 11-12 key positions in the Obama Administration, and most of the other key positions are held by members of the CFR.

                      Does the secret cabal exist today? Yes! David Rockefeller, Honorary Chairman of the CFR, and Founder and Honorary Chairman of the North American Chapter of the Trilateral Commission, stated (in his book, Memoirs):

                      "Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists,' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
                      Issachar
                      The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                      Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                      I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                      Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                        There has been a plan for some decades to link regional economic arrangements (e.g., the EU, NAFTA, ASEAN) into a world government. As Zbigniew Brzezinski (an advisor to President Obama) revealed at the first State of the World Forum in 1995: “We cannot leap into world government through one quick step…. The precondition for eventual and genuine globalization is progressive regionalization because by that we move toward larger, more stable, more cooperative units.” Brzezinski was first director of the Trilateral Commission, founded by David Rockefeller who wrote in his Memoirs (2002): “Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

                        In case you think this “One World” concept is only held by a few elites, reflect upon the fact that on June 25, 2001 the U.S. Conference of Mayors endorsed the Earth Charter, which has a goal to “promote the equitable distribution of wealth within nations and among nations,” a clearly Socialist concept.

                        Only ten years ago, the U.S. economy was three times the size of China’s, but in April 2011 the International Monetary Fund (IMF) forecasted that by 2016 the Chinese economy will surpass that of the U.S. in real terms.
                        ... the timetable for a world currency by 2018 announced by The Economist in 1988 is still proceeding on schedule. And as occultist Alice Bailey in 1933 said, according to “The Plan,” the outer structure of the World Federation of Nations will be “taking rapid shape by 2025.” This will result ultimately in a synthesis of Western Capitalism and Eastern Communism into a World Socialist Government.
                        source

                        This "synthesis" resulting in a "World Socialist Government" is also known, but not often mentioned, as "The Third Way" which is a process of "blending" the world's religions, politics and economies; the world's left and right wings; the world's liberals, progressives and conservatives ... This is what we are seeing occur before our very eyes. Of course, anyone not onboard with this process is/will be an "enemy of the state"; a global state.

                        Issachar
                        The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                        Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                        I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                        Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                          Excerpt from a speech (Is Democracy Viable?) by Thomas Sowell on June 29, 2011:

                          A recent poll showed that nearly half the American public believes that the government should redistribute wealth. That so many people are so willing to blithely put such an enormous and dangerous arbitrary power in the hands of politicians -- risking their own freedom, in hopes of getting what someone else has -- is a painful sign of how far many citizens and voters fall short of what is needed to preserve a democratic republic.

                          The ease with which people with wealth can ship it overseas electronically, or put it in tax shelters at home, means that raising the tax rate on wealthy people is not going to bring in the kind of tax revenue that would enable wealth redistribution to provide the bonanza that some people are expecting.

                          In other words, people who are willing to give government more arbitrary power can give up their birthright of freedom without even getting the mess of pottage. Worse yet, they can give up their children's and their grandchildren's birthright of freedom.
                          source

                          From above quote: "... risking their own freedom, in hopes of getting what someone else has -- is a painful sign of how far many citizens and voters fall short of what is needed to preserve a democratic republic." Ye olde sin nature doing it's thing ... This is why man is unable to govern himself. That is why we need to be governed; by God. That's tough to ... no, impossible to do, when God is turned out of everything the government can possibly get away with.

                          Issachar, believes that Deuteronomy 8, along with much other scripture, sheds all the light we need on the condition of the sin nature ..
                          The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                          Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                          I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                          Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                            Isaiah 5:
                            8
                            Woe unto them that join house to house, [that] lay field to field, till [there be] no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

                            The replacement of the family unit as the building block of society, started a long time ago. The "state" knows better ...

                            Excerpt:
                            Beginning about 1840, a group calling itself the Massachusetts School Committee held a series of secret discussions involving many segments of New England political and business leadership. Stimulus for these discussions, often led by the politician Horace Mann, was the deterioration of family life that the decline of agriculture was leaving in its wake.

                            A peculiar sort of dependency and weakness caused by mass urbanization was acknowledged by all with alarm. The once idyllic American family situation was giving way to widespread industrial serfdom. Novel forms of degradation and vice were appearing.

                            And yet at the same time, a great opportunity was presented. Plato, Augustine, Erasmus, Luther, Calvin, Hobbes, Rousseau, and a host of other insightful thinkers, sometimes referred to at the Boston Athenaeum as "The Order of the Quest," all taught that without compulsory universal schooling the idiosyncratic family would never surrender its central hold on society to allow utopia to become reality. Family had to be discouraged from its function as a sentimental haven, pressed into the service of loftier ideals—those of the perfected State.

                            Mann saw that society’s "guards and securities" had to increase because an unsuspected pathological phenomenon was following the introduction of mass production into life. It was producing "artificial wants." It was multiplying the temptation to accumulate things. But the barbarous life of the machine laborer made family ideals a hollow mockery. Morality could no longer be taught by such families. Crime and vice were certain to explode unless children could be pried away from their degraded custodians and civilized according to formulas laid down by the best minds.

                            Barnas Sears, Mann’s Calvinist colleague, saw the rapid growth of commercial mass entertainment (If they could see today ...) catering to dense urban settlements as "a current of sensuality sweeping everything before it." Former bucolics, who once looked to nature for entertainment, were now pawns in the hands of worldly wisemen vending commercial amusement. Urban confinement robbed men and women of their ability to find satisfaction outside the titillation of mechanical excitation. Whoever provided excitement became the master.

                            Mann’s other colleague, George Boutwell, who would inherit the leadership of New England education from Sears, argued that a course must be selected from which there could be no turning back. Urbanization spelled the collapse of worker families; there was no remedy for it. Fathers were grossly diverted by nonagricultural labor from training their own children. Claims of a right to society and fashion led to neglect by mothers, too. "As in some languages there is no word which expresses the true idea of home," said Boutwell, "so in our manufacturing towns there are many persons who know nothing of its reality."

                            Mann proclaimed the State must assert itself as primary parent of children. If an infant’s natural parents were removed—or if parental ability failed (as was increasingly certain)—it was the duty of government to step in and fill the parent’s place.
                            source

                            Issachar, hoping more will read this book in it's entirety ..
                            The church is on Earth to save souls from a lost world, not to save the world from lost souls.

                            Man learns about history, not from history. To learn from history requires wisdom. Cut off from God, he has none, so history repeats; no new thing under the sun.

                            I saw ten thousand talkers whose tongues were all broken - dylan

                            Psalms 122:8 For my brethren and companions' sakes, I will now say, Peace be within thee.

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                              Forgive me if this doesn't fit Iss

                              15 Stunning Statistics About the (US) Jobs Market


                              That means that over the past decade or so, less than 400,000 jobs have been added overall
                              http://news.yahoo.com/15-stunning-st...134815781.html

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                              • Re: Fundamentally Transforming America

                                Education was altered horrifically the day the Bible was no longer used to teach
                                reading, poetry, sentence structure, consequences, allusions, morals.....

                                The foundation of a solid education trembled when the basis of the truth of God was exchanged for the truth of man.

                                The art of writing was beautifully executed when children were taught from this literature. Compare such writings to what is being generated today. Weak.
                                Very weak.

                                I am so old school.

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