Pastor prepares BBC Message: Idea Christ died for sins 'insane'

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Pastor prepares BBC Message: Idea Christ died for sins 'insane' Church of England traditionalists, wearied by the battles over homosexuality in the church and the clergy, are about to take it on their spiritual chins once again when a leading "gay" cleric will tell listeners to BBC Radio 4 that Christianity's traditional teaching on Christ's crucifixion for the sins of mankind is "repulsive," "insane" and makes "God sound like a psychopath." Rev. Jeffrey John will criticize ministers who use their Easter messages to preach that Jesus was sent to earth to die as an atonement for sin, reported the London Telegraph. Christian theology has taught the doctrine of "penal substitution" – that humans, alienated from God by their sins and unable to save themselves, could only be forgiven by God sending Christ as a substitute to suffer and die in their place. "In other words, Jesus took the rap and we got forgiven as long as we said we believed in him," said John. "This is repulsive as well as nonsensical. It makes God sound like a psychopath. If a human behaved like this we'd say that they were a monster." Rev. Tom Wright, the bishop of Durham, blasted the BBC for giving John such an influential forum to make provocative claims on traditional beliefs, saying John's statements attacked the central message of the Christian gospel. "He is denying the way in which we understand Christ's sacrifice. It is right to stress that he is a God of love but he is ignoring that this means he must also be angry at everything that distorts human life," Wright said. "I'm fed up with the BBC for choosing to give privilege to these unfortunate views in Holy Week," he said. http://worldnetdaily.com/news/articl...TICLE_ID=54974

[Issachar]

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I always find it interesting that non believers even want anything to do with being remotely associated with Christianity; that is, in their own minds. In reality, they aren't associated with it.

Issachar

[Biblenuggetlady]

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1Cr 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

[Tennken]

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This "minister?" is as close to being a christian as I am a pilot, and I would
not know how to start a plane. I would love to see him defrocked and
expelled but being that he is a member of the very liberal church of England
I know that is not likely. I am wondering just what does he preach about
Jesus and his mission on earth.

[MoreThanConquerors]

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this guy must not own a Bible or something.

[Guest]

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The question really is, what does it mean to be a christian, a pastor, minister, clergyman, priest anymore? Since it doesn't include believing the Bible is the true inspired Word of God, or that Jesus is God and died for our sin, or the existence of heaven or hell, or sin itself, or right or wrong - what is left? How can we say we are christians under so few acceptable and related terms, if we actually believe the above? According to these criteria, none of us are christians anymore.

Lately I have been wondering if I even want to be associated with people who call themselves christians if they actually believe the OPPOSITE of what I believe. Seems to me, christianity has jumped ship and has crossed over to the other side while we were not looking.

[Guest]

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Seems to me, christianity has jumped ship and has crossed over to the other side while we were not looking.

I think many were looking and saw what was happening but were just too indifferent to take a stand...speaking about what I witnessed and lived through here.